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sofa king

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16. You might also need one to hold on to the Spratlys.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:24 AM
Sep 2012

Definitely not an admiral, here, but the next big naval war seems likely to erupt over the Spratly islands, or Taiwan, or over those silly little islands the Japanese want.

A carrier would permit operations from unexpected directions, in addition to shuttle-bombing far away targets with aircraft equipped to land and be turned around on the carrier, covering invasion fleets, and for the more usual purposes of bullying and diplomatic brinksmanship.

Chinese territorial aspirations appear to stretch much farther than land-based planes from mainland China can easily reach.

When unmanned drones begin fully replacing ground-attack aircraft, the deck, storage, and maintenance facilities a carrier can provide might make one even more valuable and useful than they already are.

floating Maginot Line ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #2
You're joking? Missycim Sep 2012 #25
The chance of a US-China shootin match is about nil Bucky Sep 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #34
Right on..... rppper Oct 2012 #66
Carriers can be sunk no doubt Missycim Oct 2012 #70
It's not a matter of how close... rppper Oct 2012 #73
I thought Mao suits went out of fashion a long time ago. Nolimit Sep 2012 #3
It's not a Mao suit. It was popularized by Sun Yatsen. David__77 Sep 2012 #17
jsr Diclotican Sep 2012 #4
Wal-Mart having pirate trouble? chuckrocks Sep 2012 #5
Sorry to Disagree oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #6
You might also need one to hold on to the Spratlys. sofa king Sep 2012 #16
but to me, it looks like a big sitting duck... no more. defacto7 Sep 2012 #18
Precisely Sherman A1 Sep 2012 #22
I was also oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #23
China doesn't have any fighters that can actually be carrier-launched. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #52
Ever consider the J-18 that is supposed to be under development? oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #53
So in 5-10 years China will be able to launch a plane from a boat. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #54
The Chinese might decide to put together a support battlegroup... nt SylviaD Oct 2012 #65
It's not the US navy they're building up for. Angleae Oct 2012 #68
It has seamen, but no airplanes Kolesar Sep 2012 #7
They're waiting to buy 'em from President Rmoney NBachers Sep 2012 #8
Buy 'em? Why not just wait a couple of years and repossess 'em for free? Bucky Sep 2012 #29
I don't know what the status is of China's carrier aircraft. backscatter712 Sep 2012 #9
What do you mean no airplanes? oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #24
Forgers? caraher Sep 2012 #36
Forgers are almost aircraft, I suppose.. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #41
I guess that makes me an aircraft carrier too! Bucky Sep 2012 #31
I'm a carrier, you're a carrier, he's a carrier, she's a carrier--wait, no she's not Kennah Sep 2012 #55
Chinas used car with an Earl Scheib paint job... Historic NY Sep 2012 #10
Tres North Korean Politicub Sep 2012 #11
they forgot a bilge pump snooper2 Sep 2012 #12
It needs something... like a "mission accomplished" banner Bucky Sep 2012 #28
Several posts here have skirted the issue... Bigmack Sep 2012 #13
Those anti-ship weapons don't even remotely have the range needed. Angleae Sep 2012 #20
I know about US carriers historically... Bigmack Sep 2012 #35
US carriers don't usually operate in the Persian Gulf. Angleae Sep 2012 #39
It says here we have two... Bigmack Sep 2012 #40
Persian Gulf _region._ Posteritatis Sep 2012 #42
Nope.... inside the actual Gulf Bigmack Sep 2012 #46
If the purpose .... Lurker Deluxe Oct 2012 #62
Please describe the smackdown.... Bigmack Oct 2012 #63
They spent a fortune on RUSSIAN weapons Missycim Oct 2012 #69
Most likely we would destroy every military related target we can hack89 Oct 2012 #71
Smackdown Lurker Deluxe Oct 2012 #72
OK.. then! Smack those fuckers down!.... Bigmack Oct 2012 #74
Heh Lurker Deluxe Oct 2012 #75
When designed by the Soviets, this was intended air cover, nothing more happyslug Sep 2012 #14
Chinese Paper Tiger Military. . .looks good in their uniforms, worthless everywhere else Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 #15
You sound like you're channeling Douglas MacArthur (pre-Chosin). I'm sure coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #48
I live here in China. I think i know what I see everyday from the Chinese military Suji to Seoul Oct 2012 #57
I'll readily defer to your current on-the-ground perspective if you promise me you coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #58
nope, because it isn't 1950. Suji to Seoul Oct 2012 #59
It's probably empty... defacto7 Sep 2012 #19
Nice boots. Prometheus Bound Sep 2012 #21
By the time the Chinese Missycim Sep 2012 #26
The white gloves on the Marine uniforms is a nice touch. Very Edwardian. Bucky Sep 2012 #27
If they build ships like they build roads, we're all set./ n./t Mopar151 Sep 2012 #32
This is the Varyag, the second hull of the Soviet Admiral Kuznetsov class mn9driver Sep 2012 #33
The Su-33 is the Flanker-D, not Forger caraher Sep 2012 #37
Meh... Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #38
There is some question about how well carriers of any nation would survive a major war daleo Sep 2012 #43
China caught up to US space technology of 1965, HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #44
U.S. space technology of 1969 landed men on the moon daleo Sep 2012 #45
China hasn't put a man on moon, HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #49
I would estimate a decade or less for a space station daleo Sep 2012 #51
We have the tech sakabatou Oct 2012 #64
Money= political will daleo Oct 2012 #67
I think the carriers' day is about over 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #47
They have a long ways to go before they are a professional navy in regards to neverforget Sep 2012 #50
Let me get this straight Kennah Sep 2012 #56
The bayonets are a nice touch. Scurrilous Oct 2012 #60
To repel boarders jsr Oct 2012 #61
Just playing devils advocate here but I would think 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #76
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