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polly7

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34. No, I'd really appreciate an answer.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:30 AM
Sep 2012

It's obvious what's happening towards Iran, just as it was pre-Iraq invasion, but I'd really like to know if Oberliner is in favour of removing a Gov't by military might which does not discriminate between straight, gay, young, old, fit, ill, etc.

Not surprised JustAnotherGen Sep 2012 #1
And that's why this guy shouldn't have a gun . n/t orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #2
Or a bomb! Pterodactyl Sep 2012 #165
Or a pea-shooter !!!! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #174
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #3
I would think no liberal/progressive would like their current leadership oberliner Sep 2012 #4
Human rights are atrocious in alot of other places darkangel218 Sep 2012 #7
Absolutely right oberliner Sep 2012 #8
Ahhh... zellie Sep 2012 #13
You should start a thread about that then, instead of engaging in false comparisons and MADem Sep 2012 #55
after this post be dragons Tunkamerica Sep 2012 #22
So are several other nations' Scootaloo Sep 2012 #35
Homosexuality ikl Sep 2012 #43
Perhaps Oberliner's interest does not extend there--have you ever asked? MADem Sep 2012 #65
He can say whatever he likes. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #152
No winking, no nudging oberliner Sep 2012 #162
You're not terribly good at this. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #173
There's nothing to be "good at" oberliner Sep 2012 #175
Strange on DU to find someone King_David Sep 2012 #191
David, haven't I talked you you about making things up? Scootaloo Sep 2012 #192
Making up things ? King_David Sep 2012 #194
It's not my objective to make you feel inferior Scootaloo Sep 2012 #196
I agree completely cpwm17 Sep 2012 #206
Very easy to accuse. Much more difficult to have an actual discussion. nt MADem Sep 2012 #164
Are any of their leaders being interviewed on CNN this week? oberliner Sep 2012 #77
perhaps the question of why these other leaders are not being interviewed on CNN azurnoir Sep 2012 #126
That is a good question oberliner Sep 2012 #176
The more isolated and threatened the regime, the worse things are for normal people, including gays. leveymg Sep 2012 #84
Or the normal people overthrow their repressive regimes oberliner Sep 2012 #87
The Iranian regime, whatever you may think of it, has a much broader base of support than any leveymg Sep 2012 #117
There's no way of knowing that oberliner Sep 2012 #140
That's been the working consensus for a long time, which is why Hillary didn't push regime change leveymg Sep 2012 #142
Why don't they hold a national referendum to find out? oberliner Sep 2012 #144
ROFL. Same reason the US didn't hold a national referendum in 1955 on adopting Communism. leveymg Sep 2012 #149
When would be a convenient time? oberliner Sep 2012 #177
Some time after the thaw. leveymg Sep 2012 #184
I would like to see that Missycim Sep 2012 #150
Lots of "no chance in Hell" events have happened recently oberliner Sep 2012 #178
Dont get me wrong Missycim Sep 2012 #180
Fair points oberliner Sep 2012 #182
A silly as this sounds, I think only a mass, peaceful Missycim Sep 2012 #183
A national referendum would be like the US changing its constitution Ash_F Sep 2012 #153
The Iranian constitution has only existed since 1979 oberliner Sep 2012 #179
Actually, Iran has changed it's constitution too. Ash_F Sep 2012 #202
Why don't we worry about our OWN human rights record first, Zippy? self-realized sadge Sep 2012 #106
I think it's possible to do both oberliner Sep 2012 #112
I , for sure, don't like his views on LGBT people irisblue Sep 2012 #6
Probably due to some recent posts oberliner Sep 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #10
"He's not concerned so much with the LGBT rights" oberliner Sep 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Sep 2012 #38
Well said--I love the Iranian people, I just don't think much of their unfortunate dictatorship. nt MADem Sep 2012 #59
So critical you constantly post far right-wing spin? Ash_F Sep 2012 #133
"The Ayatollah is appointed by an assembly that is directly voted on." oberliner Sep 2012 #134
I know it is painful to accept Ash_F Sep 2012 #137
The Iranian people did not vote for the Supreme Leader oberliner Sep 2012 #143
First of all, I challenge you to disprove anything in post #133 Ash_F Sep 2012 #147
It's very easily done oberliner Sep 2012 #181
It was a presidential election /nt Ash_F Sep 2012 #203
So we should ignore LGBT rights King_David Sep 2012 #53
WTF??? "Imo, preventing another unecessery war is more important than lgbt rights in Iran." MADem Sep 2012 #58
That was an amazing statement. I had to read it three times to make sure I wasn't... Bad_Ronald Sep 2012 #141
It stunned me, too. nt MADem Sep 2012 #188
Oberliner posts a lot on the I/P forum; that's why many of his posts relate to Israel LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #135
oberliner is not concerned so much with the LGBT rights? Dr. Strange Sep 2012 #130
both are important thank you. n/t hrmjustin Sep 2012 #132
"Imo, preventing another unecessery war is more important than lgbt rights in Iran" Bad_Ronald Sep 2012 #139
I notice the anti-Iran hold has been strong here lately SaltyBro Sep 2012 #11
No zellie Sep 2012 #17
Would you be willing to go to war SaltyBro Sep 2012 #24
Criticism of Iran's government does not equate support for going to war oberliner Sep 2012 #31
I notice that a lot of people can't read contextually at all. MADem Sep 2012 #60
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #20
I think he likes the Drums of War bahrbearian Sep 2012 #26
I am completely opposed to war oberliner Sep 2012 #32
They are not like us. fun n serious Sep 2012 #37
That's the best you have? Don't criticize them because they're not like us? onenote Sep 2012 #42
What? fun n serious Sep 2012 #56
I love Iran, myself--lived there for many years. MADem Sep 2012 #52
I think it's an okay country (landscape/cities) with shitty ass stupid fundie government snooper2 Sep 2012 #85
No one to the left of Attila the Hun likes the Iranian government LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #119
Time for some non hypocrisy zellie Sep 2012 #5
So what is your solution? SaltyBro Sep 2012 #12
Don't have one yet... zellie Sep 2012 #15
So being anti-war is now called "Paulian"? SaltyBro Sep 2012 #16
Good post zellie Sep 2012 #21
How many mad men are in the world? SaltyBro Sep 2012 #23
Great post zellie Sep 2012 #25
Wow. SaltyBro Sep 2012 #27
At least two. JoeyT Sep 2012 #123
What is a 'Paulinian' and to whom are you referring? sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #157
you can denounce sabbat hunter Sep 2012 #50
The Past , Like the Drum Beats of War with Iraq ? bahrbearian Sep 2012 #28
Hypocrisy? ikl Sep 2012 #47
That is false, she said IF Iran nuked another nation, we'd respond without quarter. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #64
What would she do if Israel Nuked Iran ? Israel does have Nukes. bahrbearian Sep 2012 #76
Do you have a quote from her? I don't. The other poster was lying about what she Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #79
I have your quote "she said IF Iran nuked another nation, we'd respond without quarter" bahrbearian Sep 2012 #83
I don't know, dear, I'm not talking about Israel as you want to for some reason Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #91
Ok Cup Cake ,, Hypocrisy is OK? bahrbearian Sep 2012 #94
My only point is that the other poster was making a false statement. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #101
blasphemy! shall we riot and kill innocent people over this? nt msongs Sep 2012 #14
Inciting violence oberliner Sep 2012 #33
IF homosexuals were ignorant bigots than, yes. fun n serious Sep 2012 #61
GLBT activists are aware of the international nature of our struggle. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #67
What do you suggest? fun n serious Sep 2012 #69
Start with specifics. If you condemn 'most' of the anti gay rhetoric, which parts do Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #75
I condemn all anti- gay rhetoric. fun n serious Sep 2012 #80
Ah, so you still refuse to specify which parts of their rhetoric you agree with. Got it. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #92
My silence is loud and specific? fun n serious Sep 2012 #96
So again Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #104
Thats ok by me fun n serious Sep 2012 #109
Hate should never be fueled like this. darkangel218 Sep 2012 #18
Who is flinging the "hate" here? A guy named MAHMOUD, that's who. MADem Sep 2012 #62
In the 30s 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #98
If 'some' get their wish and Iran is attacked, polly7 Sep 2012 #19
Shhh!!!! SaltyBro Sep 2012 #29
No, I'd really appreciate an answer. polly7 Sep 2012 #34
I support those who oppose anti-homosexual bigots oberliner Sep 2012 #49
Of course people are disgusted by any bigoted remarks by any leader, polly7 Sep 2012 #54
Countries should not be invaded just because their leaders are bigots oberliner Sep 2012 #74
The same 'leader' said much of the same stuff last time he came to the UN Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #78
Fail. The Americans pounding the war drum hold the same bigoted, anti- values as the Iranian leader. Viking12 Sep 2012 #171
Many of us weren't born yesterday cpwm17 Sep 2012 #207
The American hawks want to invade Iran because its government persecutes gays? LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #189
Is your answer leftynyc Sep 2012 #39
Iran should not be attacked oberliner Sep 2012 #44
Who is arguing we go to war with Iran to free their gays? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #99
Who is this "some" who is advocating attacking Iran? ButterflyBlood Sep 2012 #187
I watched last night fun n serious Sep 2012 #36
"Frankly most if not all Muslims, Christians and Jews are against Homosexuality" oberliner Sep 2012 #45
Who supports Gays ikl Sep 2012 #51
Yes. fun n serious Sep 2012 #57
Right - but isn't the degree of secularism different in different faiths? oberliner Sep 2012 #73
Hard to know. fun n serious Sep 2012 #82
Yes, I agree oberliner Sep 2012 #88
well I have never heard anyone refer to themselves as an atheist Catholic azurnoir Sep 2012 #131
I have oberliner Sep 2012 #138
well "lapsed and /or recovering" can have a very differnt meaning from atheist azurnoir Sep 2012 #158
Buddhism isn't a religion in a typical sense fujiyama Sep 2012 #204
Buddhism is different in many respects azurnoir Sep 2012 #205
Do they have secular laws? Then they are secular... Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #93
You could look at the various referenda in this country. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #151
That's About The Silliest Assertion I Have Ever Seen On DU DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #116
What Rubbish ! King_David Sep 2012 #201
Your point being??? mikki35 Sep 2012 #40
International leaders ought to be condemned for making remarks like this oberliner Sep 2012 #46
This was a televized interview, on CNN with Piers Morgan. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #90
Your point being?????? mikki35 Sep 2012 #190
Anyone Consider oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #41
Yes - and he ought to be rhetorically savaged as brutally as far RW Republicans oberliner Sep 2012 #48
Religious fundamentalists do sound a lot alike even when they hate each other as enemies. pampango Sep 2012 #70
ah yes oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #154
All authoritarian extremists sound like that, regardless of where they are politically slackmaster Sep 2012 #71
Sad to say oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #155
My statement was simply hyperbole slackmaster Sep 2012 #163
Tell me again why right-wing Christen's Pakid Sep 2012 #63
Who is Christen? slackmaster Sep 2012 #68
I used to date Christen, but she didn't seem too political. Throd Sep 2012 #105
The one I dated spelled it Kristin, and she was a Byzantine Catholic slackmaster Sep 2012 #114
Well, he seems to be a rather unpleasant fellow slackmaster Sep 2012 #66
Fuck him. And fuck anyone who defends him. (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #72
I'll second that, loudly. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #86
No one is defending him. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #97
He decided to appear on CNN and do an interview oberliner Sep 2012 #115
I don't see how any of that is relevant. ronnie624 Sep 2012 #124
OK oberliner Sep 2012 #136
This. Exactly this. Socal31 Sep 2012 #100
yes indeed things have changed azurnoir Sep 2012 #129
+1 Dr. Strange Sep 2012 #108
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Bad_Ronald Sep 2012 #121
With a telephone pole Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #193
+1 King_David Sep 2012 #195
Does it seem to anyone else he subscribes to the choice paradigm closeupready Sep 2012 #81
I don't know what he really thinks, but he's pandering to the Sin Paradigm slackmaster Sep 2012 #89
Good point. closeupready Sep 2012 #103
I have read that homosexuality is prevalent in Islamic countries, especially among young males. olegramps Sep 2012 #95
Back in the 1980s I had a job with several gay male co-workers who had worked for EDS in Iran... slackmaster Sep 2012 #113
Absolutely! nt fun n serious Sep 2012 #148
"if a group recognizes an ugly behavior or ugly deed as legitimate... Throd Sep 2012 #102
So he holds the same position as most Republicans. Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #107
Yep. Dr. Strange Sep 2012 #110
Fuck Ahmadinejad and fuck all bigots. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #111
I love the Iranian people, can't stand there leadership wutang77 Sep 2012 #118
"Their" not "there" Pterodactyl Sep 2012 #166
Grammar Mullah wutang77 Sep 2012 #170
I prefer grammar czar. Pterodactyl Sep 2012 #172
Tell me again why condemning this man's homophobia & bigotry is tantamount to advocating war with... Bad_Ronald Sep 2012 #120
Really Bad Manners. elbloggoZY27 Sep 2012 #125
The band who Rocked The Ayatollahs with Pink Floyd, Now Take On Romney With Simon and Garfunkel BVM Sep 2012 #127
He's just like the religious right in the U.S., except he is not constrained by the Consitution. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #128
Any other world leader makes these comments - and the reaction would be condemnation oberliner Sep 2012 #145
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Sep 2012 #146
I was baffled by how this thread played out. Union Scribe Sep 2012 #159
Ryan agrees. sarcasmo Sep 2012 #156
you should have a war with Iran all by yourself fascisthunter Sep 2012 #160
I oppose war with Iran oberliner Sep 2012 #161
The government of Iran sucks. Pterodactyl Sep 2012 #167
Kind of like Ryan Politicub Sep 2012 #168
*eye roll* sakabatou Sep 2012 #169
Sad. I love weed Sep 2012 #185
Did I somehow miss the bit in this thread that calls for bombing or invading Iran? ButterflyBlood Sep 2012 #186
He's a nasty piece of work fujiyama Sep 2012 #197
Thanks oberliner Sep 2012 #198
If a leader of US/France/Canada/Germany/UK/Japan/ETC said this in an interview, it would octothorpe Sep 2012 #199
sigh Marrah_G Sep 2012 #200
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