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In reply to the discussion: Bill Clinton stirs talk of possible Hillary Clinton presidential bid in 2016 [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)because talk like that is sabatoging her campaign, and is the #1 reason she and the cosmo guy are tied and she can't break into a substantial lead.
Only an egotist would want her to win,(which she has NOT yet done), then give up the seat,(she has NOT yet won), and then allow Brown to just re-take it, makes no sense. She really needs to make that speech promising to serve the entire 6 year term(and run for reelection).
(I do ASSUME you want the dems to rule the senate from the left, no???(never assume though because if one assumes...)
Do you know politics and history?
(let alone Warren has actually no real accomplishments to run a nationwide campaign on that Barack Obama didn't give her, and he would back Hillary most likely which means all of Obama's fans would vote for who Obama would back (and the democrat needs THOSE voters like me to vote to win an election.) That was proven in both 2008 and 2012 and it was proven otherwise in 2010.
Warren has about as much chance getting the nomination as say Kucinich (or the fraudsters Edwards/Ron Paul)ever did.(zero).(Kucinich great person,great vision, but nominee? Yeah, sure.Like Eugene McCarthy won the nomination)
(let alone after Herr Mittens loses, most likely neither party will ever nominate (for president) someone from Mass again, after recent history, Dukakis, Kerry, Tsongis, Herr Mittens and sad to say Teddy, etc. all failed.) Vice president, perhaps.
(Its like baseball, while I am a NY Met fan, any person can plainly see the Yankees crush the Red Sox time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.(except what, once out of 26?)
We do agree though it will be a woman 45, and better be a democrat.
but i predict there won't even be much of a primary for democrats. It will be more 2012 than 2008. Because democrats have learned what they f''ked up in 1968(when LBJ should easily have been the nominee and would have defeated Nixon) and 1980(the one and only time Teddy never should have run, any other election(1972,7,84,88,92,96)but not 1980.
And winners do what losers won't, and dems now like winning.
(Now if only the NY Jets realized that -You go with Mark Sanchez and not with a loser like egotist Tebow).
I would not mind a Hillary/Warren ticket, but Hillary /Patrick or Hillary/Castro is more likely.(though I would prefer Patrick joining SCOTUS, Castro becoming Texas Gov, Warren becoming majority leader).
Warren also has that same problem Andrew (the lesser) Cuomo has in NY. Neither are the #1 favorite from the state for a national ticket. (Patrick is in Mass, Hillary/Bill in NY)