Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:06 AM

Condom used as evidence in Assange sex case 'does not contain his DNA' [View all]

Source: Mail

Lawyers for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange have revealed that a key piece of evidence does not contain his DNA.

A torn condom given to Swedish police by one of the alleged victims was examined by staff at two forensic laboratories but they could not find any conclusive evidence of Mr Assange’s DNA on it.

The same forensic teams found DNA thought to belong to the WikiLeaks boss on another condom, which was submitted by the second alleged victim.

The revelation is contained in a 100-page police report that was written after witnesses were interviewed and forensic evidence had been examined.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2203920/Condom-used-evidence-Assange-sex-case-does-contain-DNA.html

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341 replies	Author	Time	Post
Condom used as evidence in Assange sex case 'does not contain his DNA' [View all]	dipsydoodle	Sep 2012	OP
du rec. Nt	xchrom	Sep 2012	#1
That is going to upset some people around here.	hobbit709	Sep 2012	#2
Some people will struggle with it.	grantcart	Sep 2012	#3
Yes, even though this evidence represents progress in the case.	Occulus	Sep 2012	#48
4 shame!	frylock	Sep 2012	#100
omg, lol! nt	laundry_queen	Sep 2012	#272
LOL!	Cleita	Sep 2012	#127
Woohoo! A 3 post tandem Duzy!!!	Zorra	Sep 2012	#284
Not at all. I actually think this signals Julian knows he's back	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#54
How can they rule out his DNA on a condom and "think" it's on another if they dont have his	rhett o rick	Sep 2012	#174
They can't. Which is why what the lawyer is saying sounds like bullshit.	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#260
Sounds like a witchhunt. nm	rhett o rick	Sep 2012	#298
No--it sounds like simple logic--you can't conclusively match anyone before you	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#320
I am trying to agree with you. nm	rhett o rick	Sep 2012	#321
I think that is almost impossible	reorg	Sep 2012	#326
The subheadline will upset some people, too.	pnwmom	Sep 2012	#132
Who "thinks" this? Either it's been tested or not. And the condom that	rhett o rick	Sep 2012	#177
Under the Swedish justice system's procedures, they cannot charge him	pnwmom	Sep 2012	#215
often repeated, never supported	reorg	Sep 2012	#223
Except in the appeals documents of the British court.	pnwmom	Sep 2012	#227
please try to understand before you comment	reorg	Sep 2012	#233
I do understand. The legal term "charged" in Sweden doesn't mean	pnwmom	Sep 2012	#236
No, you don't	reorg	Sep 2012	#244
The US is not "anxious" to throw him into prison...	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#224
I bet they are very "anxious" to get him in prison but you are probably right about	rhett o rick	Sep 2012	#228
The rape allegation is because the terms of consent required a condom.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#254
The Daily Mail. Can't write a proper fucking headline if its life depended on it.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#252
Desperate much? nt	Zorra	Sep 2012	#286
In denial, much?	pnwmom	Sep 2012	#290
Oh, please. He pissed in your beloved Miltary Industrial Complex's soup,	Zorra	Sep 2012	#295
+1000.	polly7	Sep 2012	#300
Oh, please. He's a certifiable narcissist and he attracts hero-worshippers like flies.	pnwmom	Sep 2012	#301
The Assange Charges Always Seemed Manufactured To Me	cantbeserious	Sep 2012	#4
I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy?	originalpckelly	Sep 2012	#5
What case?	tama	Sep 2012	#11
Oh, I don't know. They could always use the Romney tactic: "He raped me retroactively."	1monster	Sep 2012	#69
You must understand.	zeemike	Sep 2012	#74
Ahhhh;	greiner3	Sep 2012	#18
But was the other condom also broken? The quote from the article does not state that.	JDPriestly	Sep 2012	#22
Actually, still looking like he shot both...	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#61
Got to call you on that one (as you and other have been called on repeatedly): Assange was permitted	1monster	Sep 2012	#71
He was permitted to leave and yet Sweden wants to extradite him to the U.S.	randome	Sep 2012	#77
It takes a modicum of imagination.	The Doctor.	Sep 2012	#161
Just as Assange is changing his mind now?	randome	Sep 2012	#168
How is he 'changing his mind'?	The Doctor.	Sep 2012	#178
I don't know what the absence of his DNA proves.	randome	Sep 2012	#180
Wow.... I would think after the enormous amount of evidence that	The Doctor.	Sep 2012	#196
He has super-secret BOA documents.	randome	Sep 2012	#202
The document dump is very serious...	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#203
Well, yeah, soliders who break their oaths of service should be investigated.	randome	Sep 2012	#204
Australian diplomats are passing intelligence to US investigators....	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#206
There is no evidence -none- that extradition is on the table.	randome	Sep 2012	#210
According to a recent report by Reuters....	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#211
Well, 'divided' sort of implies there is no world-wide conspiracy to 'get' him then.	randome	Sep 2012	#213
When nations work together on national security matters...	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#214
The only thing this is about is the legal matter in Sweden. Nothing else.	randome	Sep 2012	#216
In this sub-thread...	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#222
IOW:	The Doctor.	Sep 2012	#340
of course you don't. n/t	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#179
Not true--his own lawyer testified to the fact that Mr. Assange left the country the	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#83
Perhaps you could narrow done the info you are referring to by page number?	1monster	Sep 2012	#93
Here's a quote from the magistrate's findings:	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#111
Kindly read my post again. More than a 'glance' this time. nt	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#145
The case was reopened 3 weeks before he left Sweden	hack89	Sep 2012	#205
Well, pretty much so. The only DNA evidence found was a tiny spot of mitochondrial DNA	1monster	Sep 2012	#99
That statement by wikileaks regarding mitochondrial DNA is incorrect.	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#136
That statement is not by Wikileaks and you apparently didn't read it	reorg	Sep 2012	#159
Oh, Jeebus..Assange groupies? That explains it. nt	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#163
not really	reorg	Sep 2012	#172
interesting facts.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#181
Victim?	malokvale77	Sep 2012	#84
The other "victim" refused to sign the interrogation report.	Luminous Animal	Sep 2012	#335
What does this mean?	Proletariatprincess	Sep 2012	#6
It means	tama	Sep 2012	#7
That is certainly what it looks like.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#182
Everyone will decide what it means..	sendero	Sep 2012	#8
Could there be unnamed evidence on it that links it to Assange...say fingerprints?	HereSince1628	Sep 2012	#15
They have had the condom for a year now.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#183
Yes but the link is about a defense report, might they only point to evidence that helps their case	HereSince1628	Sep 2012	#232
"victim" was claiming he deliberately tore the condom	magical thyme	Sep 2012	#33
Well--not no DNA--	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#58
Try again. No chromosomal DNA at all. Only a speck of mitochrdrial DNA which comes only	1monster	Sep 2012	#103
I'm sorry--but that's from wikileaks, which is hardly neutral. Do you have any actual court	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#125
No it's not from Wikileaks and you still misrepresent it	reorg	Sep 2012	#162
It's from Assange groupies? That's somehow better? nt	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#165
see #172	reorg	Sep 2012	#173
Doesn't mean anything really	TorchTheWitch	Sep 2012	#288
Wearing a condom without leaving any DNA - that's a neat trick.	baldguy	Sep 2012	#9
Not really, if the condom is removed before ejaculation.	Ikonoklast	Sep 2012	#53
That is ridiculous.	JackRiddler	Sep 2012	#68
Really.	Ikonoklast	Sep 2012	#72
Pre-ejaculate	high density	Sep 2012	#78
Pubic hair, skin cells, urine traces, sweat,	HooptieWagon	Sep 2012	#80
But it is so.	JackRiddler	Sep 2012	#176
What would an unused condom represent? nothing.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#184
Uhhhh;	greiner3	Sep 2012	#220
ewwwwww..........	KoKo	Sep 2012	#10
Exactly. Something is rotten in Denmark.	wilsonbooks	Sep 2012	#30
No, no, no. Sweden, not Denmark. Something is rotten in Sweden!	1monster	Sep 2012	#73
I wouldn't buy it on Intrade.	aquart	Sep 2012	#102
Kind of reminds me of the semen stained dress.	malokvale77	Sep 2012	#87
for 12 days..... There is only one woman I know of who kept a blue dress.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#186
how did these women end up with the use condom in both rapes?	Heather MC	Sep 2012	#12
This is, of course, a comment from Assange's lawyers, and we should not expect	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#13
Unless, as Assange contends, this is a set up	MannyGoldstein	Sep 2012	#19
No: regardless of any of your theorizing, it's merely a claim from Assange's lawyers, and	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#32
Not only that, but of course no conclusive matching can happen until Assange gives a DNA	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#59
" it is entirely inappropriate to attempt to try such a case in on a public bulletin board"	Bluenorthwest	Sep 2012	#21
"Someone" has a pager with a keyword search as near as I can tell....	Pholus	Sep 2012	#26
There is a name for that program. I can't remember. Sorry....	truth2power	Sep 2012	#34
I have never taken any stand on Assange's guilt or innocence with regard to the Swedish accusations	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#31
Yes you have. You've been trying to convince everyone of his guilt on every thread.	Alexander	Sep 2012	#70
Provide a link showing I said he was guilty of the Swedish accusations. Or apologize.	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#107
You couldn't find the requested link, could you? That's cuz it doesn't exist.	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#312
A comment taken from the Police report. nt.	druidity33	Sep 2012	#35
You are assuming that prosecutors don't break rules and turn wreckless for their own success...	GetRidOfThem	Sep 2012	#36
I'm not assuming anything about the prosecutors: if they have a weak case and overreach,	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#43
you just pegged my irony meter!	frylock	Sep 2012	#101
I've always taken the PoV that the Swedish allegations should be handled by the Swedish system	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#109
you have a POV that is obvious to anyone paying attention	frylock	Sep 2012	#297
No, this comes from SKL, Sweden's national forensic laboratory.	1monster	Sep 2012	#110
"Lawyers for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange have revealed ... " etc etc. "The report, which has	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#113
Not on the links I provided... The links I provided included the Swedish lab reports.	1monster	Sep 2012	#119
Not buying it -- cuz Wikileaks has a history of forgery. He can go clear it up in Sweden	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#135
you continue to betray your bias	frylock	Sep 2012	#299
WikiLeaks claims responsibility for fake Bill Keller column ...	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#304
dipsydoodle	Diclotican	Sep 2012	#14
"He deliberately ripped a condom so he could have unprotected sex with her."	mainer	Sep 2012	#16
The idea being he wants these women to have babies for him.	Festivito	Sep 2012	#25
But they can't conclusively match or not match his DNA until they have a sample,	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#64
Please provide a link that backs up your statement that he fled the day before he	1monster	Sep 2012	#79
Testimony from his lawyer, Mr. Hurtig, pages 5, 6, and 7, in the	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#88
Answered this one before. At least provide a page number.	1monster	Sep 2012	#94
Revelant paragraph from your link does not support your conclusions:	1monster	Sep 2012	#115
Isn't it funny how they do that?	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#121
Uh huh. Which is why I asked for specific pages on his 28 page link. S/He gave me three pages and	1monster	Sep 2012	#123
No--I expected that you would read the direct and cross of the witness. nt	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#147
pbfft! you're just jealous that i actually give links that support my arguments	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#170
Your nose has been rubbed in your deposits in these threads, repeatedly.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#283
There's not a link from you anywhere in the thread yet. I've provided various links	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#294
There are only a certain number of available facts.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#303
There's not a link from you anywhere in the thread yet. I've provided various links	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#306
Yes, you've posted lots of links,	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#308
yep.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#189
YOu need to read more than one paragraph--like where he's caught lying--	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#124
I read the three pages you said supported your conclusions. They don't support your	1monster	Sep 2012	#133
Upthread, you make the claim that mitochondria only exist in our hair and fingernails.	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#139
no s/he didn't n/t	reorg	Sep 2012	#160
Check out #103. nt	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#164
check out #99 and #162 and apologize n/t	reorg	Sep 2012	#169
Nice gossip link from the Daily Mail, citing snark from unnamed sources.	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2012	#96
DUDE!! The OP is from the DAILY MAIL, too! Citing unamed sources. nt	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#128
I'm sure hundreds of women would love to have babies with him. So the allegation is that he wanted t	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#187
Seems ridiculous to me too.	Live and Learn	Sep 2012	#158
I know. how often do really intellegent, really rich men run around trying to get women pregnant?	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#190
--- don't let facts get in the way of a prosecution.	jerseyjack	Sep 2012	#17
And the Farce Goes ON	Demeter	Sep 2012	#20
I doubt Orwell is rolling -	TBF	Sep 2012	#28
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#23
Why do people keep blaming the US for Swedish allegations?	George II	Sep 2012	#38
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#40
The UK could have extradited him	treestar	Sep 2012	#66
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#108
No, the UK could have extradited him	treestar	Sep 2012	#112
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#114
Beyone belief!	George II	Sep 2012	#292
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#319
Why should they?	George II	Sep 2012	#323
Oh, right! That's why he skipped Sweden while the authorities were talking to his lawyer to arrange	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#305
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#318
You're spouting nonsense.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#316
Because some want badly to believe in heroes.	randome	Sep 2012	#41
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#116
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#122
WHAT??	George II	Sep 2012	#269
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#289
But Bill Clinton was an AMERICAN living in AMERICA...	George II	Sep 2012	#291
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#302
So...	George II	Sep 2012	#314
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#317
Ah, so now it's NOT the US, it's the Republican Party that wants him?	George II	Sep 2012	#324
The point is...	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#325
Is there any viable PROOF that the US is behind it, or is this just paranoid theory?	George II	Sep 2012	#327
US is behind what exactly?	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#328
That's an investigation into US-Australian intelligence exchanges, not rape in Sweden	George II	Sep 2012	#333
Wrong, it's an investigation of Assange's alleged wrongdoing against the US...	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#337
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#329
So?	George II	Sep 2012	#330
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#332
Again with the "ignorant"?	George II	Sep 2012	#334
because of Bradley Manning. because of the national embarrassment. duh.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#191
So the US Government go the Swedish Government to accuse him of rape?	George II	Sep 2012	#271
It appears the US will have to come up with other charges...	KansDem	Sep 2012	#24
The last time I checked the news reports..........	George II	Sep 2012	#42
Do you really think this is only about rape allegations?	KansDem	Sep 2012	#45
Interesting...you mention Equador and the UK, not the US..	George II	Sep 2012	#55
"No, Iraq was not behind September 11..."	KansDem	Sep 2012	#166
of course	treestar	Sep 2012	#219
yes, conspiracy theory..	frylock	Sep 2012	#104
"Conspiracy theory?"!?!?!?!?	FiveGoodMen	Sep 2012	#322
Well I'll be. sarcasm nt	TBF	Sep 2012	#27
Wow, that is one clever dude. n/t	2on2u	Sep 2012	#29
Did it contain any DNA?	George II	Sep 2012	#37
Your comments make it clear you know next to nothing about this.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#52
I have read about it, but why don't you enlighten me instead of insulting me?	George II	Sep 2012	#56
Your use of the 'conspiracy theory' meme doesn't make any sense	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#76
Ah, I see....	George II	Sep 2012	#97
Sweden is a highly subordinate client state, and close ally to the U.S. government.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#118
Why is it that when confronted with reality some here resort to insults?	George II	Sep 2012	#293
Why is it that some here scrupulously avoid discussing the topic? n/t	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#296
The topic was being discussed....	George II	Sep 2012	#315
And there is an example of what it's like to cross a 'true believer'.	randome	Sep 2012	#57
Yes, beware my wrath.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#91
Hey! No electricity!	randome	Sep 2012	#92
Good. Now I expect the anti-Assange threads to cease.	Comrade_McKenzie	Sep 2012	#39
You forgot the sarcasm thingie. n/t	truth2power	Sep 2012	#47
If he's obviously innocent, why not go to Sweden and clear this up?	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#49
Because the evidence clears it up for him, therefore not requiring his traveling to another country?	Occulus	Sep 2012	#50
That is not how the legal system works	treestar	Sep 2012	#65
He's lost twice in Swedish court and four times, over a year and a half, in UK court	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#138
His destiny is a dungeon in the United States.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#285
It's too bad if Assange has psychotic delusions, but the rest of us are not obliged to believe them	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#307
Are you a psychiatrist who can diagnose from a distance?	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#310
"If Assange has psychotic delusions, then the rest of us are not obliged to believe them"	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#311
I'm trying to understand.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#313
third base	frylock	Sep 2012	#106
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#117
His lawyers had their chance to argue that in court -- but they decided it was too crackpot	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#141
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#142
Actually, one of Assange's own witnesses told the court that onward-extradition was not possible	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#148
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#149
Res judicata. Let him go on to Sweden and settle matters there.	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#151
what is your problem?	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#194
He's lost twice in Swedish court and four times, over a year and a half, in UK court	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#197
Why do you think he has so many supporters?	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#245
Population of London: 8+ million. Number of Londoners who turned out for Assange's balcony speech:	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#250
You really spend a lot of time disliking Julian Assange. Do you know him personally?	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#251
says you.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#193
"... There was at one stage a suggestion that Mr Assange could be extradited to the USA	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#195
or they didn't argue it because there is no case, hence no need. Did you know thaqt both women bragg	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#243
If there's no good case against him in Sweden, he'll be quickly cleared to go his merry way	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#275
really? Is that a fact?	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#279
... The Swedish court system is characterized by foreseeability, fairness, humanism	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#309
because of what happened to Bradley Manning!	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#192
There's still another case!	treestar	Sep 2012	#67
Bradley Manning was tortured. The good that julian did for the entire world is huge. It really	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#198
"... David Coombs, a lawyer for Pfc. Bradley Manning, ... said Manning was confined in such a way	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#207
BTW, the accusations are not "the condom broke." One of the accusations is rape	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#208
No there is not a rape accusation. there is a sexual misconduct accusation, and	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#237
... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#246
There was no rape period. That woman bragged in writing about the event, and subsequently had sex	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#248
I expect the Swedish justice system can sort it out better than we can	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#273
obviously not.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#280
Why did she go back and sleep with him again several nights later if there was a problem?	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#249
That did not happen.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#255
Wait, what? Where did that come from?	Robb	Sep 2012	#265
I dont have a link, but read it many many times.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#266
I expect the Swedish justice system can sort it out better than we can	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#274
There's more to the cases than that	treestar	Sep 2012	#217
Actually there is not more than that. Both women put in wriitng how happy they were that they had se	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#247
never has anybody been charged for not wearing a condom	reorg	Sep 2012	#225
espeically when you find out that the second woman subsequently went back to see him and had sex aga	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#238
So whose DNA is it? This could turn into a real soap opera... nt	bananas	Sep 2012	#44
What makes the most sense to me is that this was never about sex at all...	truth2power	Sep 2012	#46
So no DNA on one condom (Ms. A) But DNA on another condom (Ms. W) and both torn?	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#51
The article doesn't say both condoms were torn.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#60
Well, I hardly expect the defense to admit to that. We will have to wait until Assange gives a DNA	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#62
Great. So go back to Sweden and get that case dismissed.	treestar	Sep 2012	#63
He will never go back willingly---his DNA sample will be taken and	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#75
He should donate to a sperm bank!	treestar	Sep 2012	#82
I sincerely doubt he's supporting four children. But I bet Sweden has interviewed the	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#90
This article is nothing more than gossip. Let's hear from the mothers of these alledged children.	1monster	Sep 2012	#85
That article is from the same source as the OP. nt	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#89
And so? Still extraneous and pejorative with no evidentual value.	1monster	Sep 2012	#95
But you want to hear from the mothers, as your post upthread	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#129
Sorry. I forgot the "sarcasm" tag. No. Even were it true, it's not my business nor yours.	1monster	Sep 2012	#131
Do you have no shame? nt	tama	Sep 2012	#134
Jesus Christ! You keep posting this snarky, largely unsourced gossip...	Comrade Grumpy	Sep 2012	#98
You realize I am using the SAME SOURCE as the OP, right?	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#126
If the condom isn't split, you must acquit...	Kalidurga	Sep 2012	#81
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#120
What if he is masturbating, I might end up on the ceiling. lol nt.	Kalidurga	Sep 2012	#156
omg.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#200
This message was self-deleted by its author	bupkus	Sep 2012	#229
Doesn't Assange have at least 1 son and 1 daughter?	randome	Sep 2012	#86
Do you have children?	tama	Sep 2012	#137
And why couldn't he be a father to them?	randome	Sep 2012	#154
At least 4 kids by different mothers, according to the OP's source.	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#140
I have an uncle just like this.	randome	Sep 2012	#153
Someone with that avatar should be much less judgmental..	girl gone mad	Sep 2012	#201
i think having too many children actually is bad for the planet.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#239
Well, his every sperm is sacred....	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#264
Gross.	slackmaster	Sep 2012	#105
Subheadline: "But its thought another condom, submitted by the second alleged victim, does"	pnwmom	Sep 2012	#130
Oh--even better--the Daily Mail is now an approved source for Assange info.	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#144
I don't think that tabloid is a good source for anything.	pnwmom	Sep 2012	#146
True. But if his supporters think it's a credible source, I'm willing to explore	msanthrope	Sep 2012	#157
Why is that news?	girl gone mad	Sep 2012	#150
It's not news. It's a single element of the case. n/t	pnwmom	Sep 2012	#226
Now this is an interesting twist. nt	cstanleytech	Sep 2012	#143
This has been known since at least February 2011	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#152
exactly, so why would the DM bring it up now?	reorg	Sep 2012	#167
I imagine the Mail wanted something to print	muriel_volestrangler	Sep 2012	#171
The "magic condom"	jberryhill	Sep 2012	#155
So he was trying to forcibly impregnate those women with someone else's DNA?	4th law of robotics	Sep 2012	#175
Strong case, weak case, doesn't matter. Assange has imprisoned himself.	Dems to Win	Sep 2012	#185
This has been debated numerous times elsewhere....	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#199
Thanks for the reply, yet I remain unconvinced	Dems to Win	Sep 2012	#234
Another point to make...	AntiFascist	Sep 2012	#257
I believe Australia confirmed the US intent already.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#240
There are far too many assumptions in your post with nothing to support them.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#331
The UK extradition treaty also has provisions for 'temporary surrender'	Dems to Win	Sep 2012	#336
Sweden can transfer custody without extradition proceedings.	ronnie624	Sep 2012	#338
Thanks for the link, but I am internet-challenged and can't watch videos (no hi speed connection	Dems to Win	Sep 2012	#339
well, did they at least find antiAssange DNA instead?	fascisthunter	Sep 2012	#188
up next Assange is identified as the guy in the rain coat on the grassy knoll.	grantcart	Sep 2012	#209
''If the DNA don't fit.....	DeSwiss	Sep 2012	#212
Classic Spycraft "Honey Pot" Operation Begins to Unravel.	NoodleyAppendage	Sep 2012	#218
It's too bad if Assange has psychotic delusions, but the rest of us are not obliged to believe them	struggle4progress	Sep 2012	#221
No. If this was a CIA op from the beginning, it would be a strong rape case. Good evidence, etc	Dems to Win	Sep 2012	#230
Wasn't one of his accusers a former NGO worker with organizational ties to the CIA?	NoodleyAppendage	Sep 2012	#231
She definitely knew what she was doing	reorg	Sep 2012	#235
Everybody read the link posted by noodley! Both women boasted in writing after sex with Assange. On	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#242
If either woman was concocting a rape trap, they would have acted like a 'legitimate rape' victim	Dems to Win	Sep 2012	#263
If you know anything about how the CIA sets rape traps	reorg	Sep 2012	#341
I would think the CIA would do a better job too.	robinlynne	Sep 2012	#241
This is what sabrina's been saying from the beginning! But this info was disappeared online	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#253
Assange's lawyers admitted Assange penetrated her without a condom.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#256
But producing a condom with his DNA in it, weakens her case severely, if not entirely.	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#259
As is the case with very many rape cases.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#261
Well, it demonstrates he was willing to use a condom.	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#262
Both women are pursuing charges. I'm not sure where you get that.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#267
I haven't seen anything that demonstrates the women themselves are pursuing charges	riderinthestorm	Sep 2012	#268
That is incorrect. They are pursuing the charges themselves.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#277
there is no such thing as "the terms of consent" in the Swedish rape law	reorg	Sep 2012	#276
The terms of consent are the only thing that gives consent.	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#278
I don't like this guy	reorg	Sep 2012	#281
"against a person's will" and...	joshcryer	Sep 2012	#282
Regarding whose condom is what, I believe it's the other way round	reorg	Sep 2012	#270
What? False charges are brought agaist someone who exposed	rachel1	Sep 2012	#258
I don't see that it changes anything. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the story was that Mr. Assange...	freshwest	Sep 2012	#287