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TBF

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137. The clue to this was right in the CNN sentence -
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:10 AM
Sep 2012

"we have political AND ECONOMIC interests"

The "economic" interests (driven by capitalism) are at the heart of this.

No one supports a US Ambassador being killed - but these are not unpredictable events when you consider the systems at work here.

oh oh this might not end well at all. loli phabay Sep 2012 #1
with a dead ambassador the villagers will be calling for retaliation. not good. TeamPooka Sep 2012 #4
yup killing an ambassador is a big no no and always has been loli phabay Sep 2012 #6
Yeah I was thinking the same thing davidpdx Sep 2012 #55
U.S. ambassador to Libya, three staff killed in rocket attack Bosonic Sep 2012 #2
If true I hope the families sue this piece of shit Jones bigdarryl Sep 2012 #3
He should be throw in jail for instigating this. asjr Sep 2012 #5
You shouldn't kill people because of a movie oberliner Sep 2012 #7
+1 our ire must be at the people who carried out the killing not some idiot movie maker loli phabay Sep 2012 #8
Really Mixed Feelings oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #41
So Terry Jones KNEW his actions would cause troop deaths? alp227 Sep 2012 #149
We can quote oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #152
BLame the idiot film maker 4dsc Sep 2012 #50
That's bullshit... we should protect our freedom of speech. docgee Sep 2012 #87
I think we may validly place an amount of responsibility at the feet of both parties LanternWaste Sep 2012 #120
That's right Scootaloo Sep 2012 #14
not sure if you support the killing of the US ambassador but im sure you will clarify, thanks loli phabay Sep 2012 #17
Oh yes, clearly I do. Pile 'em on. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #30
Too true. Ghost Dog Sep 2012 #43
Perhaps you forgot: oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #54
No, I don't forget. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #56
ALL OF THEM? oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #95
So making Qaddafi "walk small" for a while justifies killing 45 civilians. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #107
So what is your Solution oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #116
I'm saying it's fucking shameful that the US ALWAYS has an excuse for the bodies it creates Scootaloo Sep 2012 #117
Why Blame America? oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #126
well we seem to sit on our hands when it's one of Iran's allies killing his own people azurnoir Sep 2012 #110
Was It Churchill oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #130
Interesting back and forth in this sub-thread, sarge. Mc Mike Sep 2012 #156
Red Army Faction oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #158
The Baader Meinhof mythos Mc Mike Sep 2012 #160
Very clever. Kingofalldems Sep 2012 #65
Huh? oberliner Sep 2012 #20
I agree, they're ridiculous reasons Scootaloo Sep 2012 #33
Those deaths are outrageous as well oberliner Sep 2012 #35
Oh Scootaloo JackInGreen Sep 2012 #40
I agree with you. But still the makers of the film got what they wanted. Lars77 Sep 2012 #32
What purpose was the film trying to serve? AngryOldDem Sep 2012 #99
In theory that is right, but contrary to popular belief, not all countries are democratic, or think still_one Sep 2012 #111
So a person who makes a movie is responsible Missycim Sep 2012 #9
i know the disconnect sometimes when it comes to stuff like this loli phabay Sep 2012 #10
Are you in Terry Jones' congregation? Are you saying he asjr Sep 2012 #15
While I will agree jones is a nut job, I don't agree that words on video Missycim Sep 2012 #23
Pastor Jones should go to Egypt and explain it to them in person. Ian David Sep 2012 #77
Wow let me get this straight Missycim Sep 2012 #90
No, he shouldn't be put to death. Ian David Sep 2012 #91
Don't be cute Missycim Sep 2012 #92
Are you saying he doesn't have a compelling argument to make? n/t Ian David Sep 2012 #103
I don't know Missycim Sep 2012 #113
Here Ash_F Sep 2012 #133
Not sure what is worse this film or that ppl believe it. axollot Sep 2012 #144
the irony is that the movie maker is also a religious nut job... mike_c Sep 2012 #135
You know you can Missycim Sep 2012 #136
Should Bill Maher be thrown in jail too? rad51 Sep 2012 #13
Not all speech is protected. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #16
if we go by the standards of religious nuts then just about everything would be banned loli phabay Sep 2012 #18
this is my point exactly Missycim Sep 2012 #25
However if we go by the standards of intelligent people rather than libertarian fuckwits... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #37
"Libertarian fuckwits?" Like the ACLU, perhaps? LAGC Sep 2012 #86
Ah yes, "Religion of peace" in quotes Scootaloo Sep 2012 #94
What about American media that mocks Christians? alp227 Sep 2012 #150
Totally agree. AngryOldDem Sep 2012 #132
The movie doesn't urge anyone to riot oberliner Sep 2012 #26
Jud Süß must be a favorite comedy of yours, then. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #45
so if a pro-choice advocate made a incendiary video on abortion Missycim Sep 2012 #27
Try this example. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #51
I am sure there are many videos Missycim Sep 2012 #60
Do you know why you don't see this reaction from Christians, Missy? Scootaloo Sep 2012 #69
I think you meant "a hundred and fifty thousand", not "million" (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #74
You're correct n/t Scootaloo Sep 2012 #82
"we've killed 150 million Iraqis" Psephos Sep 2012 #79
I meant thousand. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #85
Actually, try this example... rayofreason Sep 2012 #142
If the film maker had reason to believe that bombing would be the result then yes azurnoir Sep 2012 #98
Have you seen the video? rad51 Sep 2012 #29
Here Ash_F Sep 2012 #34
Like I thought. rad51 Sep 2012 #44
Agreed. Want to know a fun drinking game? Ash_F Sep 2012 #49
Pretty sure it's against DU rules to urge others to liver failure Scootaloo Sep 2012 #52
No, the investors got exactly what they wanted Scootaloo Sep 2012 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author rad51 Sep 2012 #58
I'm sure you do Scootaloo Sep 2012 #71
Let me get this straight leftynyc Sep 2012 #66
When you "get it straight" give me a call Scootaloo Sep 2012 #81
Unmitigated horseshit leftynyc Sep 2012 #93
Who said anything about "not being able to help themselves"? Scootaloo Sep 2012 #100
More crap leftynyc Sep 2012 #109
I know; but you're not calling the filmmakers assholes Scootaloo Sep 2012 #121
You best get a hold of your temper leftynyc Sep 2012 #131
Being openly gay incites some religious bigots to riot 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #124
if you're a fucking moron trying to make a facetious point, sure Scootaloo Sep 2012 #125
The discussion is on what it takes to get religious nuts to riot 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #128
So much for the 1st Amendment. I always thought it was popular on here. shakeemondown Sep 2012 #118
the responsibility for these killings lies with the killers rollin74 Sep 2012 #143
Will you shut up there? Biafran Sep 2012 #19
sharia law? oh please the film makers admit they knew the film would incite violence azurnoir Sep 2012 #106
The responsibility for violence lies with the party committing the violence. Jester Messiah Sep 2012 #108
again if I knew that ahead of time and did it anyway then I would have some responsibility azurnoir Sep 2012 #114
For making a movie? leftynyc Sep 2012 #63
How about they sue the religious fuckwits who can't abide free speech instead? [nt] Jester Messiah Sep 2012 #105
Yes it's clearly his fault these people are ignorant and violence prone 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #123
So when Bill Maher makes emilyg Sep 2012 #148
This is awful oberliner Sep 2012 #11
Michael van Poppel ‏@mpoppel GRAPHIC PHOTO: AFP photo shows man resembling U.S. Ambassador Stevens Hissyspit Sep 2012 #12
Here is the man Ash_F Sep 2012 #24
The Libyan interior ministry is now confirming the US ambassador's death. pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #21
US rocket coming back? rootProbiscus Sep 2012 #22
Not an act of a government oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #59
Weapons from the US were not given to Qaddafi rootProbiscus Sep 2012 #72
Yep oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #97
Only the killers and their masters are to blame. I love weed Sep 2012 #139
Weird. oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #147
The end result of religious bigotry on rateyes Sep 2012 #28
I feel if this film maker had more of a left bent Missycim Sep 2012 #31
What? Cooley Hurd Sep 2012 #38
If he had more of a left bent, he wouldn't have made a film like that. Ash_F Sep 2012 #42
I am sorry, Missycim Sep 2012 #48
Such a thing would not be liberal minded either. Ash_F Sep 2012 #57
i've seen videos of people who mock Missycim Sep 2012 #62
Somehow, I doubt they were comparable to this... Ash_F Sep 2012 #83
The Last Temptation of Christ for starters leftynyc Sep 2012 #68
I am not arguing for equivalency Ash_F Sep 2012 #89
It wasn't directed at you leftynyc Sep 2012 #96
I am not Christian so maybe I just don't understand. Ash_F Sep 2012 #112
More of a left bent? .99center Sep 2012 #75
Strange How the Story Changes with Different "News" Services triplepoint Sep 2012 #36
You need to edit your post to include only 4 paragraphs of the referenced article CottonBear Sep 2012 #39
Will Foreign Policy issues overshadow the Economy as the major Election issue? TroyD Sep 2012 #47
My take disidoro01 Sep 2012 #53
Amen leftynyc Sep 2012 #73
Hating an offensive movie is no excuse for killing people. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #61
True TroyD Sep 2012 #70
By the by Missycim Sep 2012 #64
President Obama "strongly condemns the outrageous attack" TroyD Sep 2012 #67
Romney is pissed that President Obama didn't use the opportunity to make them MORE mad. n/t Ian David Sep 2012 #76
To the Libyan People Botany Sep 2012 #78
Another Mess outsideworld Sep 2012 #80
I'm so sorry Lefta Dissenter Sep 2012 #84
Repug treason causing another US foreign policy crisis, to mess with US elections, again. Mc Mike Sep 2012 #88
Its really notable that NONE of the Arab Spring cheerleaders are on this thread. None. riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #115
Both schools of thought have a point. Mc Mike Sep 2012 #155
Repug Rep. Issa's 'oversight' is the icing on the nazi cake Mc Mike Oct 2012 #163
Are the repugs REALLY running on 9-11 (2012) security failures? Mc Mike Oct 2012 #164
Very notable, indeed suffragette Sep 2012 #157
Howdee, Suff. Mc Mike Sep 2012 #159
Something about all this is feeling manufactured to me suffragette Sep 2012 #161
I missed most Pro and Con arguments on Arab Spring issues Mc Mike Sep 2012 #162
It's being suggested that Gadhafi loyalists were involved azurnoir Sep 2012 #101
I'm so glad we toppled that moderate Gaddhaffi and put a bunch of Muslim extremists in NoMoreWarNow Sep 2012 #102
The clue to this was right in the CNN sentence - TBF Sep 2012 #137
it's terrible being a Cassandra mainer Sep 2012 #141
So what's the right move going forward? Jester Messiah Sep 2012 #104
Unworkable Bragi Sep 2012 #129
FUCK. Not Good At All. jsr Sep 2012 #119
Low class Livluvgrow Sep 2012 #122
A modest proposal -- Obama should DEFEND and EXPLAIN free speech Bragi Sep 2012 #127
Wouldn't have happened without so-called "R2P." David__77 Sep 2012 #134
true AndySipowicz Sep 2012 #145
Any Moderate Muslim responses... MyTwoSense Sep 2012 #138
this heaven05 Sep 2012 #140
ironic AndySipowicz Sep 2012 #146
Did anyone notice Romneys smirk today before his speach? darkangel218 Sep 2012 #151
Kick! n/t Tx4obama Sep 2012 #153
Bad Day In Libya & Egypt elbloggoZY27 Sep 2012 #154
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