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jmowreader

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34. If they were like most LBO victims...well, most of them
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:00 AM
Sep 2012

Mitt wouldn't have been interested in a truly troubled company because they probably couldn't afford to pay Bain's fees. He MIGHT have bought a company to close it if they had a product that would fit into one of his other companies, but as far as resurrecting a company that is in real trouble? No. No matter what Mitt says, he wouldn't have done that.

LBO artists have a different definition of "troubled company" than the rest of us. Most LBO victims were taken private because the stock was trading lower than the company's management wanted it to. Prime example: RJR Nabisco. The management of RJReynolds Industries merged their company with Nabisco Brands because Reynolds, even though it had many food lines (they owned Del Monte and the company that makes Hawaiian Punch), traded as a tobacco company. After the merger, they still traded as a tobacco company. So, because the RJR Nabisco stock price was seven times earnings per share rather than 22 times earnings per share, it made perfect sense to take the company private.

The thing is, RJR Nabisco was a very successful, very profitable company. Think for a minute: how many of their products do you have in your house? Maybe some Oreos, a box of Ritz, Animal Crackers, some A-1 steak sauce? EVERYONE uses at least a couple of the products that company makes. They could have soldiered on as a combined company and thrived forever...but because someone didn't like where the stock was trading, the world had come to an end.

Ruh Roh - What Goes Around Comes Around cantbeserious Aug 2012 #1
Key words: 'profitable and competitive'. louis-t Aug 2012 #2
If they were like most LBO victims...well, most of them jmowreader Sep 2012 #34
What a political ad this will make. Romney can say he's no longer part of Bain til he's blue in the Monk06 Aug 2012 #3
Yup. Mitt created this monster. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2012 #15
I agree with everything you've said here. closeupready Sep 2012 #36
I thought I already commented on this post. G.E.'s CEO is Obama's job Czar and he is doing it too. midnight Aug 2012 #4
Well get used to it America zeemike Aug 2012 #5
Well..... trayfoot Aug 2012 #7
Decency has been educated out of these people. zeemike Aug 2012 #9
Yes, I see your point.. trayfoot Aug 2012 #11
Sometimes I think that is learned behaviour too. zeemike Aug 2012 #16
Yup! "...greed is GOOD!" SoapBox Aug 2012 #12
Another Bain subsiduary is putting my sisters factory out Liberalman777 Aug 2012 #6
Vandalia Concordia Aug 2012 #13
Who do they see as the author of their woes? Can the workers buy the factory, do a co-op? freshwest Aug 2012 #22
There are benefits to outsourcing. sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #8
Yes, and I can make a great argument trayfoot Aug 2012 #10
outrageous heaven05 Aug 2012 #14
DUers go out and spread this on Facebook, especially swing states eom roseBudd Aug 2012 #17
If the employees had any fucking guts.... Hotler Aug 2012 #18
I'm sure they' like to dflprincess Aug 2012 #31
If they were smart, they would MIStrain them Occulus Sep 2012 #35
Are you sick enough to take to the streets in protest yet???? n/t Hotler Aug 2012 #19
Training your own replacement .... Vox Moi Aug 2012 #20
Yup. Igel Aug 2012 #27
The Bain way. sarcasmo Aug 2012 #21
Let's send this to barackobama.com Amonester Aug 2012 #23
This practice is a betrayal to American workers & I hope Obama exposes this to the hilt. pacalo Aug 2012 #24
This was made possible by passage of the slave trade treaties. Passed by democrats and republicans. Citizen Worker Aug 2012 #25
So why don't the employees buy Bain out? dkf Aug 2012 #26
It's not being shut down. Igel Aug 2012 #28
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #29
I wonder how many of those employees will vote republican. mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #30
I wonder that too! Liberalman777 Sep 2012 #32
if a worker trains their replacement lovuian Sep 2012 #33
Being forced to train your replacement, insulting. sarcasmo Sep 2012 #37
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