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Speed8098

(1,655 posts)
16. You are correct
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:53 AM
Jan 2012

Please excuse my misspeak.

The subject matter just caused me to see red and my fingers worked faster then my brain.

I graduated however none of the generation before me did in my family and I suspect most families. It is so arrogant of these pieces of garbage to forget their heritage and once again try to piss on the poor and downtrodden.

I'll probably get flamed for this but I am one that believes there are too many college educated idiots in society today. Please don't misunderstand. I don't mean all college educated people are idiots, far from it. I mean garbage in, garbage out. If you have a mediocre high school student who attends college, usually a community college because they can't get accepted anywhere else, the end result is a mediocre college graduate who thinks they are smarter than those that did not attend college.

I see it in my industry daily. I am a specialty subcontractor who provides a service and product that, in most cases, has to follow specifications written by architects and get final approval from not only the architect, but a whole host of engineers, administrative people and others who know diddly squat about the product and service I provide. I am a commercial overhead door company.

Sounds pretty simple right? Overhead doors, they open, they close, they provide security, keep the cold out in the winter and the cool air in during the summer. Wrong, yep, I said wrong.

Due to the previously mentioned college educated idiots I now have to jump through hoops just to get a simple insulated service door approved, and once it IS approved and installed, it takes me forever (45 - 90 days) to get paid by the general contractor.

You see, some college educated idiot who writes the subcontracts decided to add a "pay when paid" clause, which in 95 out of 100 cases is a non binding clause, but if you fight it, they just move on to the next guy who isn't contract savvy and who will install this product for pennies.

The architect who, in most cases knows nothing about doors, decides to reinvent the wheel. The problem is they are making the wheel square but they don't want to hear that. These snot noses (I was hanging doors before most of them were even thought of) expect the manufacturer to completely retool their factory to satisfy their mistaken understanding of the functionality of an overhead door. What used to be a straight forward industry is now rife with unnecessary paperwork because some mediocre college graduate thinks he/she are smarter than those of us who have been doing this for 30+ years, not to mention they feel the need to justify their mere existence by generating more paperwork than NASA did to put a man on the moon in 1969.

Just to let you know, I work for all of the city agencies here in NY. The DEP, DSNY, DOS, FDNY, SCA, and Port Authority of NY & NJ to name a few. If you happen to go to one or more of the new local NY sports stadiums (not named on purpose) and you look up as you're getting your snack, soft drink, or your beer or you look around and see an overhead door, my company installed it. Due to the confidentiality agreement I signed I can tell you I am involved in the most high profile project in the world right now in NY, I just can't give you details.

I tell you this so you understand that I am not just some dumb door guy who doesn't know what I'm talking about.

I know I was somewhat condescending in my description of architects and I apologize to those architects that are truly professional and are not part of the group I've addressed here. There are some however as time goes on we are seeing less and less of them.

The bottom line of my rant is, not everyone is cut out to go to college. Somebody needs to provide those services which do not require a college education and if everyone goes to college, who is going to be left to do that? Who is going to work the assembly lines if manufacturing returns strong? Who is going to provide customer service? Who is going to collect our garbage? Who is going to drive our trucks? And the list goes on and on.

Sorry:



It just goes to show you how out of touch they are! n/t Fearless Jan 2012 #1
"Out of touch" is being kind. Speed8098 Jan 2012 #2
Sadder still ... Nihil Jan 2012 #17
they're not out of touch, they're just evil. provis99 Jan 2012 #4
Beyond evil! Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #47
More and more and more - yes, they really are making me sick too. gtar100 Jan 2012 #3
Not just that, but that if they undertake adult education, karynnj Jan 2012 #5
Sounds like a plan to initiate discrimination. Recall early in 2011 when some employers sad sally Jan 2012 #6
Well are you really suprised though? I mean the GOP has largely been advocates of discrimination cstanleytech Jan 2012 #11
what employees pay unemployment tax? Employers pay that Roland99 Jan 2012 #7
No you're right, in the US all unemployment taxes are paid by employers.... Rowdyboy Jan 2012 #10
They're directly paid by employers, but employees definitely pay for all of it. sofa king Jan 2012 #15
You are correct Speed8098 Jan 2012 #16
+1 Roland99 Jan 2012 #20
On one hand Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #21
It's not a realistic option for everyone. mac56 Jan 2012 #25
Why is pursuing it Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #26
Why is pursuing it... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #27
It's not "necessary" Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #28
Getting as PhD and a Masters in molecular Biology helps too. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #29
Yep Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #30
Certainly you would agree that not everyone shines at being a student. mac56 Jan 2012 #31
Sure but Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #34
"The GED is setting the bar pretty low." mac56 Jan 2012 #35
Of course Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #36
You are painting with an extremely broad brush. mac56 Jan 2012 #37
Sorry, I just don't buy the "too stupid" argument Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #38
I never do this but....... Speed8098 Jan 2012 #39
I never do this either, but +1. Still Blue in PDX Jan 2012 #40
Yep, I deserve it Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #43
Nope, happens to me too. Just wanted to chime in though and say I agree with you. riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #48
Here is NJ we pay some. amyrose2712 Jan 2012 #23
It will bite them. When they alienate every demographic but one. Western europeans. WingDinger Jan 2012 #8
i take it you mean descendants of europeans? renegade000 Jan 2012 #12
Several of my tea party relatives have no HS diploma abelenkpe Jan 2012 #9
I'm going to have to make sure that I vote for at least one high school dropout in each election. Trillo Jan 2012 #13
Ridiculous is how they roll. neverforget Jan 2012 #14
Destroy education...eliminate jobs...make education a requirement to get unemployment benefits.... Evasporque Jan 2012 #18
The GOP also got angry that Obama wants every kid to have the ability to go to college. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #19
This fits in with the GOP notion that being poor is your fault. yellowcanine Jan 2012 #22
+1000 mac56 Jan 2012 #32
Next nineteen50 Jan 2012 #24
Just wait till they make being poor illegal! n/t durablend Jan 2012 #44
It's a deliberate poison pill. Lil Missy Jan 2012 #33
Good grief! When I think about the literacy level demonstrated by the signs at Republican rallies Still Blue in PDX Jan 2012 #41
"...would require anyone collecting them to have a high school diploma..." unkachuck Jan 2012 #42
More idjicy from the idjits! lonestarnot Jan 2012 #45
I have worked with people unionworks Jan 2012 #46
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