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96. No. My argument is that it is very fuzzy-headed thinking to believe that one is striking

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:09 PM

Aug 2012

a decisive blow, against corporate rule or against militarism or against the lobbying power of the military industrial complex, by supporting Assange's self-aggrandizing posturing or his endless games to avoid the Swedish allegations

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US denies 'wild' Assange claims of witch-hunt [View all] struggle4progress Aug 2012 OP

Yea right lsewpershad Aug 2012 #1

At this point the US and UK are essentially obstructing justice newthinking Aug 2012 #112

Ummmm, hello.... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #2

I just happen to have right here a very nice link for you to read: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #6

So the crux of the issue then is.... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #10

Actually if we were to extradite him wouldnt he be safe cstanleytech Aug 2012 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author AntiFascist Aug 2012 #41

Assange is not an American Citizen, and so could not be charged with treason. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #56

Thanks for digging that up... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #62

First, Assange would have to be charged and a an international warrant issued for him to be Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #67

Again, I only posted that as an example of the rabid right wing.... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #69

We have already crossed a lot of bounderies under previous law newthinking Aug 2012 #114

Perhaps inside U.S. borders, or on the battlefield, but extradition is defined by treaties Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #118

good stuff, thank you n/t Bacchus4.0 Aug 2012 #30

You might want to read some the responses to Green's article HERVEPA Aug 2012 #53

In actual fact, we do not know the story of the UK's cooperation with Bush II on such matters struggle4progress Aug 2012 #57

You completely avoid the crux of what is occurring newthinking Aug 2012 #113

I think "witch hunt" accurately describes it. byeya Aug 2012 #3

By all means it's a 'wild' claim. Autumn Aug 2012 #4

I see you are baaaack...is this the only subject you movonne Aug 2012 #5

Folk often post news stories here in LBN. I'm sorry if you disapprove of the news struggle4progress Aug 2012 #8

Apparently Pharaoh Aug 2012 #16

No, I long ago decided to eschew twitter struggle4progress Aug 2012 #94

Nope, but when they post on a subject, they sure POST ON A SUBJECT Electric Monk Aug 2012 #24

What can I say? The guy got himself into the news: his Swedish girlfriends complained to the police; struggle4progress Aug 2012 #25

That's just a clever choice of words dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #7

Well, but of course. nt. polly7 Aug 2012 #9

Have you watched this? KoKo Aug 2012 #11

I read the transcript some time back and linked to it in a post of mine struggle4progress Aug 2012 #14

Just got the book about Bradley Manning april Aug 2012 #12

You have already said that not believing the government does not mean one is a conspiracy theorist.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #13

I recommend every sober activist should cultivate a certain healthy paranoia, but I also recommend struggle4progress Aug 2012 #27

Isn't this the SAME "U.S." that claimed it didn't torture? triplepoint Aug 2012 #15

Then the US wont have any problem guaranteeing they wont extradite him. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #17

You believe a citizen of country A, currently in country B, facing criminal process in country C, struggle4progress Aug 2012 #18

Sure, when countries C & E are complicit in rendition and torture. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #19

Have you bothered to review relevant Swedish law and the international governing such matters? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #28

See my post 10 above... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #20

You advocate an entirely incoherent view. On the one hand, you believe that Country C is so corrupt struggle4progress Aug 2012 #37

Your argument is way too general... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #40

the main problem with making such a promise Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #43

Again, a blanket promise is much too general and probably not necessary... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #49

And when the US promises to not ask for the death penalty, what then? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #50

Who really has the power to make this promise? AntiFascist Aug 2012 #55

The DOJ will be the prosecuting agency - they can agree to a no death penalty stipulation hack89 Aug 2012 #59

My point is that the DOJ would then have to be involved... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #64

It is in America's best interest to have Assange in a Swedish prison cell hack89 Aug 2012 #66

I didn't know tama Aug 2012 #73

It is obvious that a Assange trial is a no win situation. hack89 Aug 2012 #75

Yep tama Aug 2012 #65

Assange screwed up by fleeing Sweden after being told of his interview hack89 Aug 2012 #68

Well tama Aug 2012 #72

The fact that he ran was confirmed by his lawyer in a British court. hack89 Aug 2012 #76

His lawyer testified tama Aug 2012 #88

He had three messages on the 22nd and the 23rd. hack89 Aug 2012 #89

You have made it clear tama Aug 2012 #90

So it was pure coincidence that Assange left Sweden the day before his arrest? Really? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #91

In previous sentence it was interview tama Aug 2012 #93

He still ran the day before he was to see the prosecutor. Why would he do that? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #95

Because there was a meeting in Britain he wanted to participate? nt tama Aug 2012 #97

Or he knew the interview was the final official step before his arrest. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #101

Was he legally obliged to stay? GliderGuider Aug 2012 #102

He was legally obligated to respect the resulting arrest warrant. hack89 Aug 2012 #103

Naive tama Aug 2012 #104

But very calculating when it comes to keeping out of a Swedish prison cell hack89 Aug 2012 #105

My response: GliderGuider Aug 2012 #106

Meh hack89 Aug 2012 #107

Fuck no, he's not getting a free pass. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #108

Sophocles would have picked a more noble protagonist. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #109

Maybe so, but you write a tragedy with the character you have GliderGuider Aug 2012 #110

In regards to all characters and issues you are correct tama Aug 2012 #111

Is it time for me to fall on my sword???? GliderGuider Aug 2012 #115

I don't see you as Ajax tama Aug 2012 #116

That's not punishment, it's foreplay. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #117

such a promise tho also goes against international law Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #77

In the final word tama Aug 2012 #98

Are these good enough for you? Matilda Aug 2012 #21

Thanks Matilda RogueBandit Aug 2012 #23

Sarah Palin didn't last one full term as governor of Alaska. Who gives a fuck what she says? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #29

If she reflects opinion from the right-wing, it's definitely a matter of concern. Matilda Aug 2012 #32

No, it's not a matter of concern RZM Aug 2012 #42

how many terms has Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell served? frylock Aug 2012 #45

You might want to review the powers granted, by the constitution or by any law struggle4progress Aug 2012 #46

you must be breathless from all that goal post moving frylock Aug 2012 #47

Doesn't matter what they say treestar Aug 2012 #38

Obama administration had and has the power tama Aug 2012 #48

What "political immunity" are you talking about? hack89 Aug 2012 #51

Quick google: tama Aug 2012 #60

I'm sure that Obama is in the dubious position of having to protect the office of the President... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #52

IIRC tama Aug 2012 #58

Sexual misconduct was somewhat unique with Clinton.... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #70

Wishfull thinking tama Aug 2012 #74

So far they "refuse" to press charges against Julian either, or ask for his extradition treestar Aug 2012 #61

Obama DOJ has shown tama Aug 2012 #63

That's just a shallow statement treestar Aug 2012 #87

How else do you analyze tama Aug 2012 #92

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #54

Just why would anyone joelz Aug 2012 #22

Deny all you want... The USA Tortures Prisoners and Kills innocent people with drones.... lib2DaBone Aug 2012 #26

Well, here's the rub: US military spending and US foreign policy are both ripe targets struggle4progress Aug 2012 #33

So your argument... davidthegnome Aug 2012 #36

Well said. Thanks. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #39

No. My argument is that it is very fuzzy-headed thinking to believe that one is striking struggle4progress Aug 2012 #96

Did you know that the Stratfor emails revealed that one of the talking points to use against sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #99

Of course he's trying to "deflect".. Cha Aug 2012 #34

LOL, is that the same government that said it doesn't torture? idwiyo Aug 2012 #35

Another... sendero Aug 2012 #44

The US has long since squandered its credibility. Vidar Aug 2012 #71

The time line tells a very different story... GliderGuider Aug 2012 #78

Assange doubts value of Bank of America e-mails (February 11, 2011) struggle4progress Aug 2012 #79

We know what your opinion is. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #80

Here's the timeline on BoA: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #81

The last link of yours is pure spin. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #82

The split at Wikileaks over the handling of issues associated with the sex-charges was significant struggle4progress Aug 2012 #83

The split with D D-B wasn't about sex. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #84

In December 2010 Assange was threatening to take down a bank or two, and by February 2011 struggle4progress Aug 2012 #85

It also might be informative to find out what Domscheit-Berg was up to as well... GliderGuider Aug 2012 #86

We do know that Wikileaks claimed to have been informed by a former intel agent that Domscheit sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #100

I expect better than BS from the State Department. PufPuf23 Aug 2012 #119