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Peace Patriot

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22. Ecuador said they could question Assange in the embassy without impediment. They refused!
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:34 PM
Aug 2012

What you are suggesting has already happened.

It's clear that they just want Assange in custody--nothing to do with their floundering, absurd case about "sex crimes." Everything to do with "rendering" Assange to the U.S. for torture and possible execution for the crime of journalism. That's the fate, these days, of many journalists in U.S. client states, Honduras and Colombia. It was the fate of 14 journalists in Iraq killed by the U.S. military.* It makes you scream with laughter when the U.S. starts jabberwockying about "freedom of speech." We know they only mean freedom of corporate speech but in Iraq the U.S. didn't abide even by that. Corporate reporters were targeted and killed possibly as a "lesson" to all.

In any case, Assange's stated goal of open government is anathema to the privatized U.S. government and the Corporate Rulers and War Profiteers whom it serves. Sweden likely has dirty secrets itself and fears and loathes Assange for that reason. They've trumped up a case against him that is so lame they haven't brought any charges, in all this time. (The two women who accused him now say that he didn't rape them, he is not violent and they do not fear him.) All this international furor over a man wanted for questioning? And he offers to be questioned and they turn him down? Nope. The "case" means nothing to Sweden. They want CUSTODY of Assange--in order to turn him over to the U.S. That is why they refuse to question him.

You are right that that would resolve the matter. Ecuador is an honest negotiator in this situation. They've offered two solutions--Swedish prosecutors questioning Assange in the embassy, and Sweden promising not to extradite him to the U.S. Sweden has turned down both. And the U.K.'s response was to threaten to storm the embassy, in gross violation of international law and human rights protocols, to arrest Assange. Why? Why on earth would they do this--or even threaten it--over a journalist wanted for questioning on a minor matter? I think the U.K. promised the U.S. that they would "get" Assange and deliver him to the U.S. via Sweden and they are furious that their nasty little plot got foiled.

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*(http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelandsecurit1/a/IraqNumbers.htm)

Artists' rendering of the event: Robb Aug 2012 #1
no shit Soylent Brice Aug 2012 #6
back during the troubles PatrynXX Aug 2012 #8
Obviously it will be a virtual appearance. randome Aug 2012 #2
I saw a balcony in one of the pics maddezmom Aug 2012 #3
All hail our glorious leader! randome Aug 2012 #5
It's Mazeltov, and what are you on about? bitchkitty Aug 2012 #31
CNN reports that "It looks like the balcony on the right is being prepared for something" nt pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #34
looks like I many have been right maddezmom Aug 2012 #35
I'd think that the Ecuadorian embassy has some sort of TV studio drm604 Aug 2012 #4
They do an occasional weather forecast dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #7
Other articles covering the story today: alp227 Aug 2012 #9
Ecuador urges other countries to protect its London embassy struggle4progress Aug 2012 #10
Heh. eggplant Aug 2012 #11
US is a member of OAS and expressed view at OAS meeting that this was not an OAS matter struggle4progress Aug 2012 #12
I would argue that the US's position in terms of the OAS is self-serving, at best. eggplant Aug 2012 #13
But the US simply advocated that OAS, as a whole, abstain from the affair struggle4progress Aug 2012 #14
The US went beyond that, they said it would actually be "harmful" to the OAS to even meet! riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #17
Once he left the UK for the Ecuadoran embassy, it stopped being the UK's problem. eggplant Aug 2012 #21
Quito's embassy in London is still in the sovereign nation of the UK, and Assange is a fugitive struggle4progress Aug 2012 #23
You already know the grand jury is assembled. You also know terrorism or espionage riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #24
You carelessly confuse different subjects. Grand Jury is an institution going back struggle4progress Aug 2012 #27
The legalese is meaningless in this case, all around. The grand jury is meeting riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #28
OK. But if you believe that, why bother thinking about claims a Grand Jury might be meeting struggle4progress Aug 2012 #29
Because as OBL incident demonstrates, the US believes it can snow us with inane forms of display riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #30
OK tama Aug 2012 #42
I understood that Ecuador has already given permission for questioning in situ. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #15
Because Ecuador placed unacceptable conditions on Sweden. hack89 Aug 2012 #16
What were the unacceptable conditions? GliderGuider Aug 2012 #19
Yes, that's exactly it cemaphonic Aug 2012 #32
You hold the Swedish justice system in very low esteem reorg Aug 2012 #33
Yes, please tell me more about my opinions of Swedish justice. cemaphonic Aug 2012 #54
You obviously don't know much about it reorg Aug 2012 #56
According to well-informed Swedish legal opinion tama Aug 2012 #37
A promise not to extradict Assange to the US. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #39
Of course, I think that was an entirely reasonable condition. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #41
The Swedes disagree. hack89 Aug 2012 #43
Yes, he's made quite a sacrifice. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #45
Hopefully after the election Obama will intervene hack89 Aug 2012 #47
Not all Swedes tama Aug 2012 #53
It really comes down to what you think the reason is that Sweden wants him back eggplant Aug 2012 #20
Assange was free in England for 2 years - why didn't the US ask the Brits to extradict him? hack89 Aug 2012 #38
Sweden has questioned suspects on foreign soil before. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #26
But they could not take him to custody on foreign soil hack89 Aug 2012 #40
Hack's back. How about answering my questions on your standards as the arbiter of a sex crime riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #44
I'd be very interested in that answer as well. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #46
You're SOOL, HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #50
He had every right to protect himself against extrajudicial detention, HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #49
We will see how it plays out hack89 Aug 2012 #52
Ecuador said they could question Assange in the embassy without impediment. They refused! Peace Patriot Aug 2012 #22
As a former UK diplomat described the "non-threat": tama Aug 2012 #36
Yep. And its amazing they have defenders on DU. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #51
I perceive a tinge of racism about this affair Swagman Aug 2012 #18
So do I. The US's heavy handed scolding sounds very racist to me as well nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #25
I am no fan of Assange. n/t SylviaD Aug 2012 #48
So?? Matilda Aug 2012 #55
"Obvious setup"? So you have evidence he is innocent? n/t SylviaD Aug 2012 #57
Yes - the fact that neither woman ever charged Assange with sexual assault. Matilda Aug 2012 #58
If the case is that flimsy why is he not fighting? nt SylviaD Aug 2012 #59
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