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SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
55. Thanks For Coming Up With Your Own Interpretations
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 03:55 AM
Aug 2012

Somehow my comment took all sorts of tangents that had little to do with my intended point.

I really have no desire to get into a war of words over this.

My opinion is still that someone who carries out such a violent act as this, has no useful purpose in this world. Why should he take up hospital or jail space? Why should taxpayers be forced to basically treat and keep alive someone who has destroyed the lives of so many. And be clear, he has destroyed an incalculable number of lives. Not enough money to fund important social programs, but enough to medicate and "treat" him in an institution for perhaps the next 60 years.

And for what point? Are people like this usually destined for bigger and better things in life?

Thankfully the Nazi in Wisconsin saved us the trouble of hearing how he was mentally unstable.

Perhaps those who took issue with my comments should realize that I am not try to make comparisons between the mentally ill and non-humans. I merely meant the latter in reference to someone capable of such monstrous acts, who then stand behind a made up mental illness.

And I guess if someone who led the life this guy apparently led up until recent months, can mask this illness for his whole life, and then just snap, it is something I guess we should all be concerned about. Could someone we think is perfectly sane, have a mental illness buried deep inside?

as long as it's easy to acquire guns but hard to get mental health screening and treatment... mike_c Aug 2012 #1
Precisely. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #2
Assuming the mental illness claim is legit Xipe Totec Aug 2012 #3
Mental illness does not excuse the actions of someone who is not mentally incompetent slackmaster Aug 2012 #68
We are in agreement Xipe Totec Aug 2012 #73
but he was screened - and an alarm did go up about him at the University ehrnst Aug 2012 #64
Yeah, he has a mental illness... malthaussen Aug 2012 #4
That's CONSIDERED a mental illness... Ken Burch Aug 2012 #8
You know it really doesn't matter.. sendero Aug 2012 #44
Insanity Defense SoCalMusicLover Aug 2012 #5
Do you advocate killing all mentally ill folks? TBF Aug 2012 #9
How mentally ill could he be? Drahthaardogs Aug 2012 #45
Functioning or non-functioning is not a reliable indicator of sanity. X_Digger Aug 2012 #50
Oh, Sn-aaap! - Wish I could rec your reply :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #70
You don't really understand mental illness then FunkyLeprechaun Aug 2012 #10
"probably saw things in the audience"? He planned it carefully muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #11
Schizophrenics are not mentally retarded. They are often very intelligent, and kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #13
But they don't have time machines muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #25
Lots of planning.... Odious justice Aug 2012 #27
He basically needs protective custody for life: protection for US from him, and kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #32
Careful planning is exactly what my mom did when she decided to run away from kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #31
Why are you talking about yourself so much? Odious justice Aug 2012 #35
My guess is because kestrel has a better understanding of mental health issues than many here Posteritatis Aug 2012 #38
People can explain things without personal anecdotes...experience doesn't change facts.. Odious justice Aug 2012 #39
Are you seriously implying that I am making up my mom's story??? kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #53
I'm not implying- just saying I don't know Odious justice Aug 2012 #54
Kestrel...put it on ignore Marrah_G Aug 2012 #58
What the fuck is your problem? Marrah_G Aug 2012 #57
Sycophantic outrage aside... Odious justice Aug 2012 #59
"...personal references to an individual experience are not helpful in sorting out broader issues.." kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #78
What is STFU? Is it located in Florida? Odious justice Aug 2012 #83
"she" - lol kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #77
Because I have decades of personal experience with schizophrenia, kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #43
A close member of my family has a serious mental illness or illnesses, amandabeech Aug 2012 #48
THANK YOU. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #52
You are completely welcome! n/t amandabeech Aug 2012 #76
I think you need to read the whole thread again, carefully muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #40
I'm making the point that it's utter nonsense to say that he can NOT be schizophrenic kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #46
That point would be nonsense; but no-one in the thread has said that muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #56
Well, no, that's what you have been implying all along: kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #65
I have never implied that; I've explicitly put forward a scenario that involves planning muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #75
For those of us who have worked with schizophrenia TBF Aug 2012 #60
I have never said it's out of the question, nor said it's unlikely muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #63
My speculation certainly isn't based on what some lawyer says. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #66
Movie cliches aside it's possible to be both "insane" and methodical. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #34
THANK YOU. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #47
IMHO applying the DP to the mentally ill should be a crime against humanity, kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #12
I've had some friends with schizophrenic members of their family, it was RKP5637 Aug 2012 #28
Horrible barely describes it. My mom ruined my dad's Air Force career and then kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #33
I understand and support you, kestrel. n/t amandabeech Aug 2012 #49
Are you equating "mentally ill" and "not human"? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #15
He certainly is, and I tried to get him banned. I'm PROUD to say that. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #18
You got lucky. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #16
Juror # 5 is a jackass Marrah_G Aug 2012 #23
And I think one of these mass killers (Whitman??) actually had a brain tumor kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #36
There was a study linking serial killers to brain injuries, if I remember correctly Marrah_G Aug 2012 #42
I think they called him 'non-human' because he killed many people muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #26
Let's let the shrinks figure out if he's mentally ill or not. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #17
There is NO QUESTION about the guy being mentally ill. Shrinks will determine if he's COMPETENT... slackmaster Aug 2012 #41
You are not going to demonstrate the absolute sanctity of life WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2012 #19
If he is schizophrenic, there is nothing to forgive. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #24
We are asked to forgive everyone, its not easy. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2012 #29
Oh, and you have no clue what a "cretin" is, either. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #20
Thank you Doc :) Marrah_G Aug 2012 #22
I disagree with your entire post. Marrah_G Aug 2012 #21
Killing someone in captivity Odious justice Aug 2012 #30
I can certainly believe he is very seriously mentally ill. Chemisse Aug 2012 #6
That is because our legal system is so effed up. It cannot properly deal with kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #14
Gee...what was your first clue, counsel? Ken Burch Aug 2012 #7
Yup. flossie bobbsey Aug 2012 #37
Duh, you think? primavera Aug 2012 #51
Thanks For Coming Up With Your Own Interpretations SoCalMusicLover Aug 2012 #55
Actually, capital punishment is more expensive than life locked up. ehrnst Aug 2012 #62
So, in a nutshell, he's a "useless eater". Thank you for the insight into YOUR kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #67
Oh, and what evidence do you have that his mental illness is kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #69
Here's a little reading to fill out your understanding of what it coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #71
I'm going to take a wild guess that you've never seen real mental illness up close slackmaster Aug 2012 #72
It's pretty obvious that the poster in question has never had to deal with the kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #79
"Made up mental illness" and fear about crazies hiding among us... classy. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Aug 2012 #61
I Have No Experience SoCalMusicLover Aug 2012 #80
"Suddenly being 100% sane?" Did you miss the part where he was medicated? Posteritatis Aug 2012 #81
To me it's intuitively obvious that anyone who slaughters a bunch of innocent people randomly is... slackmaster Aug 2012 #82
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