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slackmaster

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4. I have no solution to the problem of violent psychotics who haven't been adjudicated as mentally...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 09:40 AM
Aug 2012

...incompetent.

There are a whole lot of people out there who have mental illnesses. Some have been formally diagnosed, I suspect most have not been and may never be. But until a person has been officially found by a court of law to be mentally incompetent, those people all enjoy the same set of rights as do the rest of us.

No matter what laws and legal processes are in place, no matter how much arbitrary power we give to police and to mental health professionals, an occasional whack job is going to slip through the cracks. Our system of government is in a constant state of checking and balancing government authority vs. individual liberty.

I think the best we can do is all try to look out for one another. If you see someone who you think might be having a mental health problem, do whatever you can to help. But ultimately people have the right to refuse treatment.

No doubt the police dismissed her by saying something like "Your concern is noted." slackmaster Aug 2012 #1
Obviously mixing firearms with those who suffer with severe mental issues ... spin Aug 2012 #3
I have no solution to the problem of violent psychotics who haven't been adjudicated as mentally... slackmaster Aug 2012 #4
Thank You RobinA Aug 2012 #8
That's unfortunately a fair and realistic appraisal of the situation. (n/t) spin Aug 2012 #32
Kinda like PennSt's traetment of Sandusky, look the other way folks..... Dont call me Shirley Aug 2012 #30
It's like the FBI analyst prior to 9/11. Info was there, but what happened to it? GreenPartyVoter Aug 2012 #2
I'm a shrink. The standard for breaking patient confidentiality is "imminent danger" and it should Happyhippychick Aug 2012 #5
Thank you for contributing to this important discussion. slackmaster Aug 2012 #6
Oh my, you have my sympathies! Happyhippychick Aug 2012 #10
I think based on the warning and your explanation of what that warning entails, byeya Aug 2012 #11
Thanks and that was my thought LittleGirl Aug 2012 #12
What is/are your theoretical orientation(s), how long have you practiced, what licences do you have? bobthedrummer Aug 2012 #14
If she thought he was a danger to others, why didn't she have him committed? PADemD Aug 2012 #15
Getting someone committed permanently is very, very difficult (and it should be) slackmaster Aug 2012 #16
Could you elaborate? Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #19
Excellent question. I can elaborate. Happyhippychick Aug 2012 #22
The Tarasoff Warning DallasNE Aug 2012 #25
I talked about the identifiable victim thing in an earlier response Happyhippychick Aug 2012 #27
I Completely Agree Regarding The Psychiatrist DallasNE Aug 2012 #28
And on a personal note... Happyhippychick Aug 2012 #31
I'm not surprised. Here in Los Angeles, LAPD is very open about how kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #7
Liberals RobinA Aug 2012 #9
disagree. lefties want prevention, conservatives are all about "reacting" pasto76 Aug 2012 #13
Sooo.... RobinA Aug 2012 #29
It is perfectly feasible to PREVENT violence without trampling all over kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #18
Some Disturbing Trends Emerge DallasNE Aug 2012 #17
I'm not sure that's the case here... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #20
I Beg To Differ DallasNE Aug 2012 #23
Outside officials were notified... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #24
Do You Have A Link On That DallasNE Aug 2012 #26
agreed. University of Colorado reviewing how it handled Dr. Lynne Fenton concerns maddezmom Aug 2012 #21
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