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Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:22 AM

44. which would once against decimate any chance of us pushing a democratic agenda

Other issues are more important:

How many people die daily by gun violence, and how many die because of our woefully fucked up healthcare system? How many die of starvation or homelessness because of our fucked up tax system that allows a small percentage of people to hoard such a huge percentage of our nation's wealth? How many die in workplace injuries or because of environmental degredation because we can't get enough democrats elected to keep corporate malfeasance in check?

gun violence and violence in general is a symptom of our fucked up societal situation, not the cause of it.

Think about what your talk of a renewed assault weapons ban that won't stop a single crime will cost the people of this country before you speak of new "assault weapons" bans.

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131 replies	Author	Time	Post
Obama Calls For Government Action On Guns In The Wake Of Colorado Shooting [View all]	onehandle	Jul 2012	OP
Holy SHIT. Risky, but again... the right thing. NT	Grown2Hate	Jul 2012	#1
Not all that risky.	progressoid	Jul 2012	#78
Little history lesson for you	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#92
Not afraid to take a stand.	nolabear	Jul 2012	#2
Yep	savalez	Jul 2012	#82
Good on our President	RoccoR5955	Jul 2012	#3
I wish you were right, but I have my doubts from the country that voted bush in twice, and voted	still_one	Jul 2012	#33
voting against feel good gun control or total gun bans is in many people's interest.	alabama_for_obama	Jul 2012	#41
Assult weapons are used to kill many people at once. That is their purpose. That some states do	still_one	Jul 2012	#43
there is no such thing as an "unliscenced dealer"	alabama_for_obama	Jul 2012	#46
As far as I am aware gun shows get away with that crap all the time. /nt	still_one	Jul 2012	#103
wellll... if you are a Dealer, you have to have an FFL	alabama_for_obama	Jul 2012	#106
If you make a living selling guns you must have a license.	hack89	Jul 2012	#110
Have you been to any gun shows? n/t	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#117
There are FFL loopholes large enough to drive a truck through.	boppers	Jul 2012	#105
so an employee is paid in guns? who cares?	alabama_for_obama	Jul 2012	#107
The right wing will go balistic	mountain grammy	Jul 2012	#4
That's exactly what's kept a lot of the NRA membership, and conservatives from embracing	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#7
Same thing was said about President Obama's gay marriage stance.	Grown2Hate	Jul 2012	#9
It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out with Romney's history.	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#13
Gay marriage doesn't actually affect the wingers	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#98
I think it's a good gamble for the middle	tk2kewl	Jul 2012	#10
what will their MOA be I wonder?	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2012	#14
As will those right here on DU who want to protect guns at all costs	AllyCat	Jul 2012	#37
Beat me to it - n/t	primavera	Jul 2012	#88
Bad timing.	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#5
yep, there goes the White House	invader zim	Jul 2012	#11
I don't think it's that certain	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#16
I doubt that. Gun nutters wouldn't be voting for Obama anyway.	R. Daneel Olivaw	Jul 2012	#18
clinton himself admits that the AWB crippled his presidency	alabama_for_obama	Jul 2012	#42
I don't think there are very many battle-ground swing voters whose single-issue platform are firearm	LanternWaste	Jul 2012	#115
you base this on your assumptions, but I wouldn't be so sure that you are correct.	alabama_for_obama	Jul 2012	#119
And Democrats lost the House and Senate after the AWB was signed into law.	NickB79	Jul 2012	#51
Out of curiosity...	primavera	Jul 2012	#90
Depends on if you'll accept Bill Clinton's word on it	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#99
Sounds pretty convincing to me	primavera	Jul 2012	#100
Most NRA member believe in some for of gun control.	intheflow	Jul 2012	#71
most NRA believe in gun safety...	alabama_for_obama	Jul 2012	#91
nope... that talking point was never true	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#80
How much more anti-Obama can the NRA be? They "scored"	ProgressiveEconomist	Jul 2012	#12
All the leadership of the NRA needs is a damn soundbite.	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#15
Obama did not give them that soundbyte. The N.O. speech	ProgressiveEconomist	Jul 2012	#26
Great timing. Obama can always show that Rmoney banned assault rifles. nm	rhett o rick	Jul 2012	#20
You have to pick you battlegrounds and your time.	pa28	Jul 2012	#22
My thoughts exactly	Populist_Prole	Jul 2012	#25
gun "enthusiasts" :cough:"nuts":cough: hated Obama already...nt	Evasporque	Jul 2012	#70
+1	sarcasmo	Jul 2012	#95
let Rmoney explain why everyone should have assault rifles & be able to buy 6000 rounds of ammo on	wordpix	Jul 2012	#104
That was gutsy and perhaps a little risky	nevergiveup	Jul 2012	#6
.	tk2kewl	Jul 2012	#8
Video clip on the link below	Tx4obama	Jul 2012	#17
It's a well-crafted speech, and from an RKBA perspective I have no objection to it	petronius	Jul 2012	#19
Exactly.	ProgressiveEconomist	Jul 2012	#27
States are submitting mental health records to the NICS...	-..__...	Jul 2012	#69
Good for him.	UnrepentantLiberal	Jul 2012	#21
I wish I owned a gun store...I see an up turn in sales n/t	Moltisanti	Jul 2012	#23
Of course you do you precious little flower....	DainBramaged	Jul 2012	#61
Just a lot of talk. I seriously doubt anything is going to happen.	JoeInNy	Jul 2012	#24
which would once against decimate any chance of us pushing a democratic agenda	alabama_for_obama	Jul 2012	#44
So, what kind of activism do you do for hunger, homelessness, or tax policy?	Kolesar	Jul 2012	#57
None, except hoping against hope that poor people can't afford guns	Scootaloo	Jul 2012	#76
uh, probably more than you. but that is irrelevant and not the topic of discussion.	alabama_for_obama	Jul 2012	#93
Unless he has a plan to overturn Heller and Miller its just talk	davepc	Jul 2012	#28
Here is a little case study for you to consider	TouchOfGray	Jul 2012	#29
Shows fortitude. Shows initiative. Shows Presidentiality.	truthisfreedom	Jul 2012	#30
This post was hidden by jury decision.	nebenaube	Jul 2012	#31
well gee, I guess the pot vote will go to the repukes, and I know he had the gun vote wrapped up	still_one	Jul 2012	#36
Although I applaud him for speaking out..	humbled_opinion	Jul 2012	#32
good point and something i didnt even think about.	loli phabay	Jul 2012	#35
anyone who know anything about rifles knows that the AK-47 is a much more durable weapon than the	still_one	Jul 2012	#38
So he's going to go on record	JoeyT	Jul 2012	#34
Actually I think it is about time that people realize what the issues really are. Woman and civil	still_one	Jul 2012	#39
The Most Important Ideological Election since 1932	bucolic_frolic	Jul 2012	#58
I agree with you. /nt	still_one	Jul 2012	#102
This is the same thing as Pelosi saying it would be ‘really important’ to take on med. marijuana...	Poll_Blind	Jul 2012	#40
"AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers"....or wizards....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2012	#45
I'm glad I bought my AR-15 when I did.	Dr_Scholl	Jul 2012	#47
"I'm glad I bought my AR-15 when I did"	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2012	#48
no the ak is for orcs, the ar is for goblins and hobbits.	loli phabay	Jul 2012	#53
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2012	#56
A .223 round will never take down a two-headed ogre.	Dash87	Jul 2012	#74
I bought mine when it became clear that the state of California was going to pass it's own "AW" ban	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#67
Do you get hard just thinking about it?	Hell Hath No Fury	Jul 2012	#114
Oh yeah.	Dr_Scholl	Jul 2012	#123
Just when AK47s were consistently under $400.... n/t	Moltisanti	Jul 2012	#130
A warning from the 1990's when Gun Rights groups where MUCH WEAKER....	virginia mountainman	Jul 2012	#49
Here that? It's the sound of the GOP collectively cumming in their pants	NickB79	Jul 2012	#50
Our obsessive focus on the fact that Holmes had an assault rifle	xxenderwigginxx	Jul 2012	#52
Risky but needed to be said.	DCBob	Jul 2012	#54
Good for him and nothing to worry about politically...	polichick	Jul 2012	#55
The right will freak out	SmittynMo	Jul 2012	#59
Graded Gun Licenses.	JoePhilly	Jul 2012	#60
Thanks JoePhilly. Makes a lot of sense.	russspeakeasy	Jul 2012	#65
How about we do that for voting?	Missycim	Jul 2012	#68
Which...	beevul	Jul 2012	#126
BS.	JoePhilly	Jul 2012	#127
Fundamental understanding of whats currently allowed is important.	beevul	Jul 2012	#131
Ok, so the election is over now	Ter	Jul 2012	#62
Right, now we know gun owners are simply sheep.	DainBramaged	Jul 2012	#66
Gee, I wonder why there was a rush on guns this past week	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#63
Open up the NICS background check system to non-federal firearms licensees	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#64
What? I make two practical suggestions that few gun owners disagree with, and NOBODY responds?	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#72
Please stop trying to shut down the discussion with your rational and	petronius	Jul 2012	#81
You big bully!!1!11!!! n/t	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#85
You just nailed my vote MR. PRESIDENT	CountAllVotes	Jul 2012	#73
I don't think this will hurt him with the GOP PAC known as the NRA anyway	Tom Ripley	Jul 2012	#75
+ 1 Bazillion!	Shadowflash	Jul 2012	#77
good! Sanity!	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#79
I don't see a CALL for anything.	savalez	Jul 2012	#83
This is crazy.	Atypical Liberal	Jul 2012	#84
No, no, NO!!!!	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#86
Nobody. Fucking. Cares. About. Your. Parsing. Of. Minutia.	onehandle	Jul 2012	#87
You go ahead and keep believing that. It's unfortunate you don't grasp the President's nuance.	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#89
He can't grasp it, because it is over his head.	virginia mountainman	Jul 2012	#109
thank you onehandle	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#96
Talk to the OP about it.	Atypical Liberal	Jul 2012	#101
Um, this is a pretty huge fucking bit of "minutia"	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#112
So, you endorse ignorance?	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#118
onehandle is PROUD of his ignorance	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#129
This message was self-deleted by its author	onehandle	Jul 2012	#120
Nice sock puppet post!	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#128
Yes, your post suggests you are crazy	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#97
It could be a way of sounding like he's making a point	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#111
I , Walter Mit Romney, solemnly swear that I will	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#94
just what do you think he's messing with?	wordpix	Jul 2012	#108
He's messing with a huge voting block of gun owners	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#116
the issue is the nation is awash in guns	wordpix	Jul 2012	#121
At the risk of sounding like a total redneck (which I was)	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#122
Good talk, now help make it happen.	Hell Hath No Fury	Jul 2012	#113
Not really..	virginia mountainman	Jul 2012	#124
wow..someone used an ak47 in a crime?	backwoodsbob	Jul 2012	#125

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