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25. hire Mitt Romney to attack the guy with scissors, and throw him to the ground for shave nt

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This forcible shaving is not only petty, but makes the prosecution look religiously motivated leveymg Jul 2012 #2

I agree 100%. elleng Jul 2012 #3

Quite the opposite jberryhill Jul 2012 #4

Good point. nt Doremus Jul 2012 #21

True. And he joined the military treestar Jul 2012 #85

Could they? Probably. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #5

The US Army issued a waiver to a Sikh Officer a few years ago. They can, if they want to. leveymg Jul 2012 #8

the Sikh did not commit mass murder samsingh Jul 2012 #17

And do you really think that Hasan has gone to his commanding officer TouchOfGray Jul 2012 #24

The Sikh asked first probably Confusious Jul 2012 #30

So? I said they probably could I didn't they "couldn't". cstanleytech Jul 2012 #32

There's a difference between a guy who requests a waiver in order to serve Codeine Jul 2012 #39

Sikhs are not allowed to cut their hair ever--as an expression of faith. MADem Jul 2012 #53

Please note, the ARMY has special rules as to Sikhs happyslug Jul 2012 #76

So it's OK to the rest of the world for a "devout Muslim" to go on a murderous rampage TouchOfGray Jul 2012 #6

No matter. We should avoid the appearance of religious persecution or bias. leveymg Jul 2012 #10

This is not a civilian trial jberryhill Jul 2012 #29

This. He is still a soldier at this point. LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #37

His religion is not on trial Confusious Jul 2012 #31

He is a soldier, not a civilian obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #46

He volunteered for the military 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #54

I don't think tolerance of the one implicitly expresses tolerance for the other... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #65

He's a devout asshole. Robb Jul 2012 #7

Was he a devout Muslim with a beard before he went on his rampage? n/t Control-Z Jul 2012 #15

Nope 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #55

i'm with the military on this one samsingh Jul 2012 #18

i hope the death penalty applies in this case samsingh Jul 2012 #20

I disagree. He is still in the military so he can damned well follow the rules. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #23

My thought exactly sounds like revenge and power to me gopiscrap Jul 2012 #28

It is against military regulations obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #45

He has a US Army commission, and he's being paid commensurate with his rank. MADem Jul 2012 #52

The personal grooming and men's fragrance lobby are in the wings of this mental health provider's bobthedrummer Jul 2012 #69

disagree .. he is being required to adhere littlewolf Jul 2012 #83

maybe Romney could do it Enrique Jul 2012 #9

This jerk had no problem shaving... Stargazer09 Jul 2012 #11

I'm so sorry for you and your friend's loss leftynyc Jul 2012 #50

Thank you Stargazer09 Jul 2012 #78

He lost all his freedoms the day he pulled the trigger. Terrillary Jul 2012 #12

agreed samsingh Jul 2012 #19

No, he didnt lose them then and he doesnt until hes convicted. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #33

Sure he did. He's not walking around free. He's being told what to do and when to do it. IndyJones Jul 2012 #86

This isn't about his freedoms. It's about perceptions (right or wrong) that this is about religion. leveymg Jul 2012 #41

If the rest of the world leftynyc Jul 2012 #51

He didn't have a problem shaving before this 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #56

We would grant an exception for our own reasons, not his. leveymg Jul 2012 #59

Given that he killed a large number of his comrades in cold-blood and entirely 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #60

The political Islam aspect of the crime is why we need to avoid appearance of discrimination, leveymg Jul 2012 #61

How is it discrimination to hold him to the exact same standard we'd hold anyone else to 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #62

Appearance of mistreatment or unjust treatment is the thing to be avoided. leveymg Jul 2012 #64

Letting him keep the beard will prejudice his jury. Its not standard military grooming riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #67

I really doubt that's adequate grounds to overturn a conviction. Really, really doubt it. leveymg Jul 2012 #70

A beard is not a religious requirement in Islam just like the burqa riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #72

The kind of people who would declare jihad 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #74

If we let him keep the beard then it WOULD be about religion riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #63

I disagree with that. However, as he is military, that is a big loss of being able to do what you uppityperson Jul 2012 #44

Several things come to mind... Old Troop Jul 2012 #13

Hypocrite. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #14

not shooting innocent people is something i believe in samsingh Jul 2012 #16

His ass belongs to the Army until he's discharged or executed slackmaster Jul 2012 #22

Yep! IndyJones Jul 2012 #87

hire Mitt Romney to attack the guy with scissors, and throw him to the ground for shave nt msongs Jul 2012 #25

good one! spooky3 Jul 2012 #26

Sad to see such a religious bigot... gregoire Jul 2012 #27

The judge is a religious bigot? No--the judge is enforcing the same rules every other msanthrope Jul 2012 #35

Nothing to do with military regulations? Really? n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #36

Making everyone abide by the same rules is bigotry? NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #66

A common slam by those who believe curbing any religious or cultural expression riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #68

Yes, we can call out all the bigotry & batshit ideas NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #73

The other day I tried to carry my 15 ft stainless steel cross through airport security 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #75

A religious freak who slaughtered innocent people claiming to be a victim alphafemale Jul 2012 #34

Difficult logic for some folks here, apparently. n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #38

I thought he was quadriplegic (???) cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #40

Paraplegic. nt msanthrope Jul 2012 #58

Help... Where am I??? procon Jul 2012 #42

I agree with the judge rollin74 Jul 2012 #43

He chose to join a cult. truthisfreedom Jul 2012 #47

This is petty,mean spirited bigotry mwrguy Jul 2012 #48

I agree with you and it should not happen.... gopiscrap Jul 2012 #49

He didn't have any trouble shaving before 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #57

And what you just said wasn't? PavePusher Jul 2012 #77

He knew the rules when he signed up and allowed Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #84

probably the greatest injustice in the world today arely staircase Jul 2012 #71

sorry but he is military JCMach1 Jul 2012 #79

Headline is designed for shock value JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2012 #80

not much difference between him and the colorado joker may3rd Jul 2012 #81

His faith comes behind his duty. His body is Uncle Sams... ileus Jul 2012 #82