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In the discussion thread: Official: US ship fires on boat off Dubai, 1 dead. [View all]

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:41 PM

46. They did, it was well recorded

and clearly some mistakes were made. However the Iranians said they should have know because it was a daily scheduled flight yet,

they {USS Vincennes} were being attacked by eight Iranian gun boats. Vincennes was defending themselves from this attack when the plane was shot at with two standard missiles. Crucially, the Vincennes misidentified the Iranian Airbus as an attacking F-14 Tomcat fighter aircraft. A radio warning had been sent to the aircraft on the international air distress frequency.

Why were the Iranians attacking a US vessel, known for its strong AA defenses, right at the time they will have a civilian aircraft passing overhead?

I look to see who has more to gain/loose by telling the truth. We are trying to keep as many countries on our side so Iran can be isolated without violence. Lying about shooting a fishing boat, very easily verified through third parties as was the USS Vincennes incident, will put countries in the Iranian camp more than ours.

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52 replies	Author	Time	Post
Official: US ship fires on boat off Dubai, 1 dead. [View all]	permatex	Jul 2012	OP
It's high time seniors on food stamps pay for another unfunded war....	grahamhgreen	Jul 2012	#1
Billionaire tax cuts get first dibs. You know, the poverty creators. nt	valerief	Jul 2012	#6
Prayers for the falling one.	Iliyah	Jul 2012	#2
Weird story	Renew Deal	Jul 2012	#3
SOP is to warn any closing vessel	permatex	Jul 2012	#4
Think USS Cole 2000	Proud Liberal Dem	Jul 2012	#10
Sailors, sea, navy	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2012	#14
Sailors	panzerfaust	Jul 2012	#44
This	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2012	#13
Could have been pirates	nichomachus	Jul 2012	#5
Or confused for same, yeah	Posteritatis	Jul 2012	#7
Smugglers are the more likely answer	hack89	Jul 2012	#8
Utter fools. The USN has not forgotten the Cole bombing. n/t	Psephos	Jul 2012	#9
I agree	may3rd	Jul 2012	#20
17 Dead: What USS Cole got for showing restraint	panzerfaust	Jul 2012	#41
Based on the article the	Lurks Often	Jul 2012	#11
According to the Swedish press,	cliss	Jul 2012	#12
Wrong	permatex	Jul 2012	#15
Right	may3rd	Jul 2012	#21
This message was self-deleted by its author	permatex	Jul 2012	#22
USS Stark and USS Cole...	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#23
With all that is making new, THIS is worth fearing.	turtlerescue1	Jul 2012	#16
The 5th Fleet is based at	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#17
Thanks sarisataka	turtlerescue1	Jul 2012	#18
No problem	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#19
We killed an Indian fisherman and wounded three others.	Comrade Grumpy	Jul 2012	#24
Everything reported so far indicates	permatex	Jul 2012	#25
Preassumes they spoke English	dipsydoodle	Jul 2012	#26
Hailing them is not the only warning	permatex	Jul 2012	#27
"Preassumes" they only used English	Cerridwen	Jul 2012	#28
Correct	permatex	Jul 2012	#29
what does a pirate look like?	melm00se	Jul 2012	#30
Also a suicide bomber	permatex	Jul 2012	#31
there is a very interesting	melm00se	Jul 2012	#32
I read that book	permatex	Jul 2012	#33
US ship gave no warning, says Indian survivor - Hindustan Times	dipsydoodle	Jul 2012	#34
Does anybody really expect the men in the fishing boat to say	Lurks Often	Jul 2012	#35
Some expect that	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#36
Yeah ... the USS Vincennes also had a SOP for everything and kept records of the actions they took.	Nihil	Jul 2012	#39
They did, it was well recorded	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#46
I see	permatex	Jul 2012	#37
"A whole ship full of people" have not said anything.	Ash_F	Jul 2012	#40
All involved would already have been interviewed	permatex	Jul 2012	#42
What else do you expect the shooter to say, "sorry folks, we fucked up"? Gimme a break	Ash_F	Jul 2012	#49
Did they miss the warning shots from a 50cal machinegun across their bow?	Baclava	Jul 2012	#38
Depending upon wind direction & sea surface: YES	panzerfaust	Jul 2012	#43
maybe they didn't recognize it as a military vessel	Baclava	Jul 2012	#45
The Persian Gulf has a lot of military traffic	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#48
Correct me if I am wrong	sarisataka	Jul 2012	#47
"Usually, we know alarms and sirens are sounded by ships. But there were no warnings.”	Ash_F	Jul 2012	#50
Investigators say the boat did alter course	Ash_F	Jul 2012	#51
a clear indication	dipsydoodle	Jul 2012	#52

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