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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 01:13 PM

40. I'm not sure that we don't take this too far

First of all, not all speech is protected - you can't threaten someone with physical violence, for example, and use the 1st Amendment as a shield against prosecution for assault. Neither is incitement to violence protected. Intentional infliction of emotional distress is not a protected form of speech. So we already have limited freedom of speech, and yet we haven't spontaneously combusted; the only question is how we wish to define those limits.

Second, pretty much every country in Europe has some variation on our First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech, yet most have on their books laws excluding hate speech from the normal freedom of speech protections. Yet they do not seem to have lapsed into tyranny.

Why wouldn't it work to have here some sort of anti hate speech laws? Occupy could still protest peacefully, as could right-wing groups, as long as they didn't engage in hate speech. But groups like Westboro Baptist, who exercise their "freedom of speech" only to disrupt, upset, and offend others as much as humanly possible, could be held accountable under the law. Would that really be so horrible?

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