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aint_no_life_nowhere

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75. For me it's case by case

Sat Jul 14, 2012, 02:33 PM

Jul 2012

My first job as a lawyer was working as an associate for a personal injury firm. The partners were as crooked as it gets, taking cash under the table for referrals to doctors on which they paid no taxes. They ended up opening another business to launder a great deal of cash. It was common practice at the time in the personal injury-work comp fields of injury practice. I quit that job in disgust.

Someone who makes money as a parasite like these guys or Romney don't earn it in my opinion. If they do more than shift money from the pockets of others to their own and actually create something and bring something new into the world whether as a scientist, engineer, filmmaker, or musician, for example, then I tip my hat to them and their wealth.

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Poll: The Rich Deserve Their Wealth [View all] wordpix Jul 2012 OP

Of course, they work harder than 99% of the population... rfranklin Jul 2012 #1

problem is...THESE are their boots: Ken Burch Jul 2012 #81

I think that was sarcasm. (nt) Nine Jul 2012 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #126

The bootstrap metaphor is perfect for them for one specific reason. gtar100 Jul 2012 #125

They may deserve it, but Lifelong Protester Jul 2012 #2

Yea liberalmike27 Jul 2012 #12

Agreed primavera Jul 2012 #80

There is not an economist, left or right, who would agree with you. former9thward Jul 2012 #82

Correction primavera Jul 2012 #88

We live much better than people did 50 years ago. former9thward Jul 2012 #89

It is the power not the money Sterling Jul 2012 #83

I don't even believe in "too rich". qwlauren35 Jul 2012 #121

If you can spend hundreds of millions buying elections DBoon Jul 2012 #127

Deserving what they earn and paying their share of tax is two different things. appleannie1 Jul 2012 #3

Good Point Martin Eden Jul 2012 #10

+1 mac56 Jul 2012 #54

Brilliantly put! randome Jul 2012 #76

Warren also made the point that successful companies need roads and other infrastructure wordpix Jul 2012 #79

I have no problem with rich people permatex Jul 2012 #69

Or them not realizing/admitting they didn't amass all of that wealth in a vacuum. MustBeTheBooz Jul 2012 #73

It's not that surprising. We have been trained to worship the rich. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #4

We are a well-trained, feckless lot. villager Jul 2012 #16

Yep. Lots of little Romney's running around. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #20

I think they absolutely deserve there wealth as long as they pay there fair share. teddy51 Jul 2012 #5

Millionaires are a sign of success. Billionaires are a sign of decay. aquart Jul 2012 #35

Good point Incitatus Jul 2012 #66

The comments are pretty good. geardaddy Jul 2012 #6

People don't blame ALL rich people FrodosPet Jul 2012 #7

Behind every great fortune there is a great crime. fasttense Jul 2012 #8

oh come on now, that is a bit extreme isn't it. okieinpain Jul 2012 #139

What people don't get is... AngryOldDem Jul 2012 #9

Less economic mobility in the US than in Europe. earthside Jul 2012 #14

+1 Liberalynn Jul 2012 #97

Consider the source is all I'll say. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Jul 2012 #11

no way the wealthy deserve their wealth handmade34 Jul 2012 #13

Americans believe in Worthington's Law n/t DotGone Jul 2012 #15

Those that "EARNED IT" probably did so by causing undo financial stress on others liberal N proud Jul 2012 #17

That's a pretty broad statement. zzaapp Jul 2012 #29

Maybe 1% of the 1% earned their fortune honestly liberal N proud Jul 2012 #39

I guess that I'm 1% of 1% zzaapp Jul 2012 #47

I imagine most individuals in that bracket would rationalize the very same about themselves.. LanternWaste Jul 2012 #58

Lucky you! liberal N proud Jul 2012 #67

Thank you. That was really nice. But there was no luck involved. zzaapp Jul 2012 #101

Oh? caseymoz Jul 2012 #112

Please refrain from name calling. It's unbecoming. zzaapp Jul 2012 #128

Hallucination alert. caseymoz Jul 2012 #138

Oh, was this said in a general sense? zzaapp Jul 2012 #146

Oops. caseymoz Jul 2012 #147

how about the old sayin' zzaapp Jul 2012 #148

You may not recognize her, but Lady Luck was right there as part of your success. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #122

I prefer to think of it as Karma.... zzaapp Jul 2012 #130

A little hint about those credit cards you scarped by with... liberal N proud Jul 2012 #136

Absolutely correct.... zzaapp Jul 2012 #137

Is that an admission that you did get where you are on your own? liberal N proud Jul 2012 #142

Hi LNP..did you mean "didn't get" ? zzaapp Jul 2012 #143

I don't get it. How can some people be so stupid? Harriety Jul 2012 #18

I have no problem with the rich keeping their money.... LynneSin Jul 2012 #19

No one is saying they don't deserve it, BUT.. if it's made on the backs of their neighbors, then no. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #21

Not surprising in the land of optimistic sheeple cosmicone Jul 2012 #22

The brainwashing has been very effective. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #23

This question is too broad. Dawson Leery Jul 2012 #24

Noblesse Oblige: JaneQPublic Jul 2012 #25

we are dumb BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #26

I was lucky. DaveJ Jul 2012 #27

Well said. Octafish Jul 2012 #116

Many people mistakingly think.... zzaapp Jul 2012 #28

But CEOs will continue to pay themselves 10,000 times more than their employees DaveJ Jul 2012 #31

I AM a CEO.... zzaapp Jul 2012 #33

I guess that explains your lack of concern for the worker DaveJ Jul 2012 #34

No offense Dave, but are you high ???!!! zzaapp Jul 2012 #38

How about health, dental and vision? I bet not. xtraxritical Jul 2012 #51

You would lose your money. zzaapp Jul 2012 #52

Well....I'm waiting......(tapping foot) zzaapp Jul 2012 #57

So, can you promise all the same caseymoz Jul 2012 #108

10,000 was a ridiculously high estimate Ter Jul 2012 #45

Hi Ter zzaapp Jul 2012 #46

I think the record was Bill Gates at his peak Ter Jul 2012 #49

I can't even IMAGINE that much money ! zzaapp Jul 2012 #50

Maybe you're not actually wealthy, then? caseymoz Jul 2012 #113

Optimism is bad ? I don't understand. zzaapp Jul 2012 #132

As a goal or posture? Yes. caseymoz Jul 2012 #140

point taken...I'm a bit of a contrian myself...at times zzaapp Jul 2012 #145

You have no way to prove this and are only one person treestar Jul 2012 #62

OK zzaapp Jul 2012 #93

Why are you posting here . . . caseymoz Jul 2012 #110

I'm sorry, have I missed something? zzaapp Jul 2012 #134

Compromise. caseymoz Jul 2012 #141

LOL......ok by me. zzaapp Jul 2012 #144

I you have nothing to hide, please tell us... Hotler Jul 2012 #85

You tell first.....Why are you so grumpy? zzaapp Jul 2012 #95

Why shouldn't someone get irritated? caseymoz Jul 2012 #111

Actually, I'm very interested in what you have to say, zzaapp Jul 2012 #133

that's true, but at any given time BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #36

Yes, you are 100% correct. zzaapp Jul 2012 #41

Pies can grow? liberal N proud Jul 2012 #37

If we had everyone zzaapp Jul 2012 #42

Sorry man, but that is bs Ashgrey77 Jul 2012 #63

we must abolish pie-making BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #70

Yes but... zzaapp Jul 2012 #94

Human effort is finite. caseymoz Jul 2012 #107

something like that.......I guess. zzaapp Jul 2012 #135

Let them eat pie? liberal N proud Jul 2012 #68

Load of simplistic horseshit. enki23 Jul 2012 #103

Lighten up Frances.....see post #63. zzaapp Jul 2012 #104

Sorry Frances...I meant post #94 zzaapp Jul 2012 #105

No, we don't. Wrong assumption. caseymoz Jul 2012 #106

Did the poll ask if people are OK with the wealthy tax breaks though lunatica Jul 2012 #30

+1 Incitatus Jul 2012 #53

"Deserves got nuthin to do with it." Clint Eastwood DocMac Jul 2012 #32

Ahh the "Lottery" mentality. Phlem Jul 2012 #40

92% Of Americans Are Socialists They Just Don’t Know It. Mass delusion at fault. ErikJ Jul 2012 #43

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2012 #92

I strongly believe that one JonLP24 Jul 2012 #124

I think OWS hurt more than it helped Ter Jul 2012 #44

I think that you make a good point. zzaapp Jul 2012 #48

My own anecdotal experience was the opposite... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #59

Don't be jealous! Just be ready to fight for those less fortunate! Kteachums Jul 2012 #55

I've always had the utmost repect for zzaapp Jul 2012 #56

Depends on how you define rich LACarMan Jul 2012 #60

Lots of people Steerpike Jul 2012 #99

I wonder how it would come out if the question were treestar Jul 2012 #61

Do the poor deserve their lot in life? may3rd Jul 2012 #64

This is likely carla Jul 2012 #65

And everyone else deserves the same percentage of their wealth to live on, too, no matter how littl judesedit Jul 2012 #71

I think the question is so vague that it acts as a Rorschach Ink Blot test slackmaster Jul 2012 #72

I'd say they deserve whatever they have. randome Jul 2012 #77

Behind every fortune is a crime? Sterling Jul 2012 #91

LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL Now THAT'S classic. zzaapp Jul 2012 #102

But at the same time . . . caseymoz Jul 2012 #115

Thanks Casey.... zzaapp Jul 2012 #131

Grossly Overpaid otohara Jul 2012 #74

For me it's case by case aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #75

Let's educate the working people. Once we introduce labor education into the classrooms, it will be midnight Jul 2012 #78

Who gets to determine what a "fair share" is? madville Jul 2012 #84

bad framing booley Jul 2012 #86

I'm with you, wordpix. luv_mykatz Jul 2012 #87

Its CNBC for fucks sake... and-justice-for-all Jul 2012 #90

CNBC. In other words, "Crap, Nothing But Republicans". HughBeaumont Jul 2012 #98

I don't hate the wealthy Marooned Jul 2012 #100

They do deserve it, they dont however deserve the right to get out of paying taxes as some of them cstanleytech Jul 2012 #109

They DO deserve their wealth, but they SHOULD PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE! secondwind Jul 2012 #114

Yes, THIS. Lex Jul 2012 #118

Most of them.. sendero Jul 2012 #117

When you work hard, others get ahead. Trillo Jul 2012 #119

The question is misleading. caseymoz Jul 2012 #120

I don't necessarily disagree JonLP24 Jul 2012 #123

"A large proportion, about 50 to 60 percent of adult Americans play legal lotteries" Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #129