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58. It is completely safe
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 08:52 AM
Jul 2012

Guns do not accidentally discharge. That is a Hollywood invention. Or an "excuse" someone makes when they shoot someone. People make guns discharge, they don't make themselves discharge.

Are holstered weapons supposed to be locked? This is a serious question. pnwmom Jul 2012 #1
Generally no obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #16
Agree Country Tom Jul 2012 #31
Yup. Shadowflash Jul 2012 #53
It is completely safe obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #58
That depends on the gun. Plenty of guns had accidental discharge problems. Sirveri Jul 2012 #185
How SHE shot herself? How can you even use that phrasing? Demit Jul 2012 #54
With the info we currently have, she discharged the weapon somehow obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #56
The part that doesn't add up to me is that his gun was holstered in his waistband pacalo Jul 2012 #148
Add to that the fact that police usually use hollow point or soft point bullets. TheWraith Jul 2012 #176
How the gun jumped out of the holster and shot her 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #76
Do you live in Somalia? Boxcar Willie Jul 2012 #192
Do you live in the USA? PavePusher Jul 2012 #194
Yes Boxcar Willie Jul 2012 #197
Most police weapons are double-action-only, with no safety switch. TheWraith Jul 2012 #33
I'm glad to hear that it isn't as easy as it sounded. I hope they do a thorough investigation. n/t pnwmom Jul 2012 #43
I do too. TheWraith Jul 2012 #177
I think if you check Old Codger Jul 2012 #47
I agree obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #59
"the long hard trigger pull is to insure it doesn't go off too easily." greiner3 Jul 2012 #65
You just proved you have no clue what you are talking about Lurks Often Jul 2012 #69
Just wow! oldhippie Jul 2012 #77
You should do just a LITTLE more basic research before trying to type a post to fill a meme snooper2 Jul 2012 #108
Gee, you sound like a gunsmith. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #117
You could be right sarisataka Jul 2012 #121
Oh hey, dumbest post I've seen on DU in hours. (nt) Posteritatis Jul 2012 #134
I.... TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #2
We'd expect nothing less. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #67
Can't begin to compete with the *cough* TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #112
Very odd Meiko Jul 2012 #3
40 cal S&W n/t safeinOhio Jul 2012 #6
.40 Smith and Wesson is the round the weapon fired. TheWraith Jul 2012 #37
Both. safeinOhio Jul 2012 #55
Yea I saw that Meiko Jul 2012 #100
Glocks have a trigger safety Peregrine Jul 2012 #8
My 9,, doesn, too obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #18
I think you meant to say "does too." TheWraith Jul 2012 #36
Maybe tape it down Peregrine Jul 2012 #46
I did -- I was half asleep when I wote it! obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #57
I know Meiko Jul 2012 #101
that is true Old Codger Jul 2012 #214
So many questions... bluedigger Jul 2012 #4
Strange story. So, a round was in the chamber, the safety was off, and somehow a "hug" caused AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #5
Several points MicaelS Jul 2012 #13
Instead of going through each point, cf #2 - "Revolvers do not have safeties. Never have." with: AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #15
Interesting. Third-party, after-market parts, but cool. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #20
Point taken. In contrast, the hammer on a common S&W acts as a safety in that it must be cocked AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #28
Your "common s&w"... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #50
Nope. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #68
Takes more than pulling the trigger to fire an XD. Clames Jul 2012 #89
Plus, maybe, a hug? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #98
You said cock the hammer... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #106
Nope. If your statement is not universally believed, do you have a link to support it? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #114
"is not universally believed because I don't agree"... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #175
That is NOT the safety, it is the cylinder release latch... MicaelS Jul 2012 #25
It is actually a safety. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #27
It's a Murabito aftermarket safety for older S&W revolvers. Major Nikon Jul 2012 #29
That's an aftermarket modification, not standard equipment. TheWraith Jul 2012 #38
Yes, in response to the statement ""Revolvers do not have safeties. Never have.", the photo AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #45
Since it appears you want to be pendantic... MicaelS Jul 2012 #73
"pendantic". Is that your new word for the day? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #74
Yes.. I looked it up in the dictionary and found your picture. n/t MicaelS Jul 2012 #75
Actually, AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #79
That's a cylinder release, not a safety, fyi. Deep13 Jul 2012 #71
No. See #29. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #72
That's a Taurus, not a SW. Deep13 Jul 2012 #120
A google search produced the photo that I used. Since thousands of such safeties have been added to AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #122
I'm not in class right now. Deep13 Jul 2012 #140
This message was self-deleted by its author Deep13 Jul 2012 #119
sounds fishy Kyad06 Jul 2012 #7
It doesn't make sense, does it? IndyJones Jul 2012 #9
No obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #19
ricochet? AlecBGreen Jul 2012 #10
Very, Very Fishy DallasNE Jul 2012 #12
Many shoulder holsters the barrel points straight back Crabby Appleton Jul 2012 #17
That's assuming the idiot had the right holster for the gun. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #48
It was a inside waistband holder covered by his shirt rocktivity Jul 2012 #99
Crabby, that photo looks like an accident waiting to happen. tru Jul 2012 #118
Pretty difficult to do that actually. PavePusher Jul 2012 #164
Shoulder holster?? n/t Beartracks Jul 2012 #34
It would have to be, wouldn't it? Angle from hip would hit her lower, not in the heart. freshwest Jul 2012 #206
the mother seems to question it as well: unblock Jul 2012 #11
I don't think that's possible without intent. TheWraith Jul 2012 #39
lots of unanswered questions; could he have been trying to prevent access to his gun? unblock Jul 2012 #41
Almost all police weapons don't have a safety switch. TheWraith Jul 2012 #42
Actually... HALO141 Jul 2012 #103
Sounds like a classic case of premature ejaculation gone Freudian n/t Blandocyte Jul 2012 #14
guns are mainly veganlush Jul 2012 #21
Agree... Fredjust Jul 2012 #22
Guess that's why cops carry them. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #66
Have some more coffee. PavePusher Jul 2012 #85
People have to protect themselves from drunken hypoglycemic diabetic fat smoker freeper zombies slackmaster Jul 2012 #95
More info. safeinOhio Jul 2012 #23
So, a gun in an inside-waistband holster was discharged obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #60
Agree. I routinely carry a Glock in an IWB holster .... oldhippie Jul 2012 #78
Possible scenario: PavePusher Jul 2012 #87
That's a whole lot of "iffing" going on rocktivity Jul 2012 #105
IIRC, the term for the action is "freaking". PavePusher Jul 2012 #109
See updates at #123 and 153. PavePusher Jul 2012 #160
Lots of weirdness here for this to be an accident. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #24
Another question: Why did he have a live round in the chamber? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #49
A round in the chamber would be the normal and correct carry method for pistols. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #51
Anyone who knows actual tactics knows the old "quick draw" scenario is a myth Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #52
More ignorance of reality n/t oldhippie Jul 2012 #81
Want "reality"? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #124
Are you? Clames Jul 2012 #125
I would if it were in area. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #133
You are the one suggesting "quick draw". ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #83
Actually, the training I had was as a union security guard in the 70s Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #113
You suggestion deserved the reaction... Clames Jul 2012 #127
We rail about the militarization of the police Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #132
None of that has anything to do with this subject... Clames Jul 2012 #143
Sure it does Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #162
Paul Blart, is that you? rl6214 Jul 2012 #195
Do I really have to keep defending the union HERE of all places? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #196
Who said anything about union? rl6214 Jul 2012 #212
Yup. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #213
FBI stats state that most gunfights take place MicaelS Jul 2012 #88
Oh yeah? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #126
Are you familiar with the Tueller drill? sarisataka Jul 2012 #130
Oh, I see. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #135
Has there never been a violent fight at a party? sarisataka Jul 2012 #142
Thank you! Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #150
None of the previous replys were attacks. PavePusher Jul 2012 #157
A few were. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #163
De nada sarisataka Jul 2012 #159
Not cover, but concealment. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #145
Don't cop cars have panels in the doors? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #151
Usually not. PavePusher Jul 2012 #158
Maybe the CHP has them as we see a LOT of police persuits on TV Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #165
They aren't being used as "shields" but as camoflauge. PavePusher Jul 2012 #167
Better than nothing sarisataka Jul 2012 #168
A car is NOT "cover". PavePusher Jul 2012 #156
Considering I've seen what an Uzi can do to concrete block Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #169
Such ignorance. Clames Jul 2012 #96
And as we all know, it's a war zone out there. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #128
Far closer than any mall-cop/security guard will get for certain. Clames Jul 2012 #131
"conditioning"? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #137
Yes... Clames Jul 2012 #144
I'm NOT putting up my training to a cop Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #152
ORLY? HALO141 Jul 2012 #110
I talk off duty cop at a 25 year old woman's birthday party and you talk war Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #129
On the contrary, HALO141 Jul 2012 #138
The gun went off as a result of a hug. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #141
That's the story they're trying to sell ... oldhippie Jul 2012 #147
Something about this story stinks. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #170
Handguns DON'T "just go off." TheWraith Jul 2012 #172
Handguns DON'T "just go off." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #178
Sorry if I was overly harsh. TheWraith Jul 2012 #180
There's a lot of people out there Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #181
Reading your post again Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #179
Of course that's not normal. HALO141 Jul 2012 #182
Background we both know you don't Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #184
"What the hell is wrong with..." HALO141 Jul 2012 #188
I give up. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #189
OK, then. n/t HALO141 Jul 2012 #190
BTW: thanks for making my point for me. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #191
Pretty sure I didn't do that... Whatever it was. n/t HALO141 Jul 2012 #199
Sure you did. In two ways. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #200
Then clarify. HALO141 Jul 2012 #201
You just did it again on one of the points. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #202
If you will not be specific HALO141 Jul 2012 #203
There it is again. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #204
OK. HALO141 Jul 2012 #205
Would it kill you to read what I wrote? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #207
I did read it. HALO141 Jul 2012 #208
Wrong. What I was saying is this idiot might have been the type Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #209
At the moment we don't have any information to that effect. HALO141 Jul 2012 #210
The article said the gun went off from being hugged from behind. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #211
That is totally normal obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #61
Those pistols that do that may need some springs replaced. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #149
See #87. n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #90
Picture here doesn't make sense. caseymoz Jul 2012 #26
Strange unless it was some POS holster & the gun fell to the floor... Historic NY Jul 2012 #30
Modern firearms cannot go off by being dropped. TheWraith Jul 2012 #40
Dropping a gun doesn't make it go off obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #62
See #87. PavePusher Jul 2012 #92
Was it in a "shoulder holster?" haele Jul 2012 #32
No -- inside-waistband holster obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #63
Detroit Police are issue the S&W M&P40 in .40S&W. Clames Jul 2012 #35
THAT is a weird story. eom tawadi Jul 2012 #44
So, the off-duty officer brought his gun to a party. crim son Jul 2012 #64
In our local department, officers are required ...... oldhippie Jul 2012 #80
He was hosting the party at his house. Clames Jul 2012 #86
The officer was the HOST of the party rocktivity Jul 2012 #93
Actually, in most cases it's required. TheWraith Jul 2012 #107
If this is accurate, then I think I can imagine how it must have happened. Ian David Jul 2012 #70
The physics of what you suggest do not work. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #84
See #87. n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #94
This story is fishy Aerows Jul 2012 #82
Upside down holster? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2012 #91
According to the Detroit Free Press rocktivity Jul 2012 #97
Many IWB holsters are leather and not particularly tight. PavePusher Jul 2012 #111
My leather IWB holsters are all tight ... oldhippie Jul 2012 #139
See #123. I'm gussing a cheap Uncle Mike's neoprene-ish piece'o'junk. PavePusher Jul 2012 #153
I have 2 Uncle Mikes IWB sarisataka Jul 2012 #161
Too late for a gunpowder residue test. Tejas Jul 2012 #102
.....on everyone present. Tejas Jul 2012 #104
we often poke fun at the stupidity of the American public... until it encroaches on our sacred cows. LanternWaste Jul 2012 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author tru Jul 2012 #116
A bit more info sarisataka Jul 2012 #123
This is useless without pictures JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2012 #136
Like I said a POS holster...most likely a deer skin or a one size fits all.... Historic NY Jul 2012 #146
Jeez, if everybody owns a gun, even people who do things safely --will we be any safer? CreekDog Jul 2012 #154
Who's advocating that everyone own a gun? PavePusher Jul 2012 #155
I didn't say that? Apparently while chiding me over accuracy, you didn't even read what i said CreekDog Jul 2012 #166
It doesn't pay to hug gun people--or even be around them. Scary! nt valerief Jul 2012 #171
Ri-i-i-i-i-ght..... PavePusher Jul 2012 #173
Yep. Guns kill people all the time! nt valerief Jul 2012 #174
Not like that, yhey don't. nt HALO141 Jul 2012 #183
Guns don't kill people, hugs do. n/t JusticeForAll Jul 2012 #186
So don't hug gun owners. boppers Jul 2012 #187
Update from Free Press Crabby Appleton Jul 2012 #193
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