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33. I have to say I think Zimmerman's account is every bit as believable as that from those who want to

Reply to neohippie (Original post)

Wed Jul 4, 2012, 07:15 PM

Jul 2012

convict him in the media.

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Doctor: George Zimmerman had black eyes, painful broken nose but no head trauma [View all] neohippie Jul 2012 OP

Maybe his father broke his nose arcane1 Jul 2012 #1

the emt reported the broken nose magical thyme Jul 2012 #3

I not one of those who thinks that he faked his own injuries neohippie Jul 2012 #4

Yep. If someone grabbed me, I'd break their nose, too. GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #12

That sort of action could be called attempted murder rl6214 Jul 2012 #25

No. It would be called "self-defense". GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #27

Yes, and it depends on who was the attacker. Following someone is not attacking them. Canopus Jul 2012 #35

No shit. GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #36

Your 'point' is dependent on your belief that Zimmerman attacked Martin, That is far from a proven Canopus Jul 2012 #37

You are right. We do know that Zimmerman was following Trayvon. crim son Jul 2012 #40

It's possible, but that would have simply been another example of improperly asserting the right. Canopus Jul 2012 #45

If Zimmerman had not stalked Martin spotbird Jul 2012 #49

Except that Zimmerman admitted in his first call to 911 that JDPriestly Jul 2012 #52

Zimmerman is going to have a huge credibility problem though if he testifies cstanleytech Jul 2012 #60

Depending on Zimmerman's defense, that may all be irrelevant hack89 Jul 2012 #61

The outcome will depend on the evidence. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #65

Very true hack89 Jul 2012 #69

No! The prosecutor does not have to prove what actually happened. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #70

Doubt is not the truth hack89 Jul 2012 #71

it doesn't appear that deadly force was the only way Zimmerman could have stopped Martin neohippie Jul 2012 #72

There is nothing cut and dry about this case from a legal perspective. nt hack89 Jul 2012 #73

Doubt is not the untruth either. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #74

Zimmerman does not have to testify hack89 Jul 2012 #75

In fact, I didn't think he would testify. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #76

That would only apply to the pre-trial SYG hearing hack89 Jul 2012 #77

But there is no question that Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #78

All this assumes Zimmerman had ANY right to approach or detain demwing Jul 2012 #29

If you know Zimmerman tried to detain Martin, you really should give a deposition to the prosecution Canopus Jul 2012 #46

I was responding to a specific post demwing Jul 2012 #48

You Really Think This Tired Wheeze is Clever, Fella, Don't You? The Magistrate Jul 2012 #51

You realize smart ass comments don't prove you are right? joeglow3 Jul 2012 #56

You Talkin' To Me, Fella? The Magistrate Jul 2012 #57

Not wanting to fight OR see one of my rights pissed away. joeglow3 Jul 2012 #58

Do You Think The Troll Made A Legitimate Point In Replying To Post 29, Sir? The Magistrate Jul 2012 #59

Yes I do joeglow3 Jul 2012 #62

The Content Of Your Post, Sir, Has Nothing To Do With The Comments In Question The Magistrate Jul 2012 #63

And what will be admitted into evidence is the big question. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #66

I saw zero evidence of a broken nose or black eyes Boabab Jul 2012 #31

NOBODY noticed that he had a broken nose until the next day? rocktivity Jul 2012 #2

An EMT testified at the bond hearing last week that he noted the broken nose on the night of... slackmaster Jul 2012 #6

He has no credibility anyway! AnnieK401 Jul 2012 #5

Scalp damage can be considered head trauma, but the term usually refers to damage to the brain or... slackmaster Jul 2012 #7

Any evidence that isn't noted at the scene of the crime is tainted Horse with no Name Jul 2012 #8

hell, we know his wife would do it to cover for him grasswire Jul 2012 #9

Of course his wife would do it for him/them. Auntie Bush Jul 2012 #14

Calahan did this to me.... 2on2u Jul 2012 #15

Wild unevidenced speculation doesn't pass the smell test either. Canopus Jul 2012 #47

the incident happened on a sunday night- why would he have needed a note Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #10

I wondered about that too? Did he miss a day of work? JDPriestly Jul 2012 #67

Again, if a strange man came up to me with a gun I would "stand my ground" and fight for my life auburngrad82 Jul 2012 #11

At what point do you believe that Trayvon became aware of the presence of the gun? slackmaster Jul 2012 #13

Yeah iamthebandfanman Jul 2012 #18

All I know for sure is that he initiated and pursued an encounter that resulted in a fatal shooting slackmaster Jul 2012 #19

The obvious explanation is that nobody was brandishing a gun at him. Canopus Jul 2012 #34

there aren't really any good witnesses neohippie Jul 2012 #64

Agreed. Why is it not clear that Trayvon had just as much right to "stand his ground". FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #26

That may be something the jury has to decide at the trial. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #68

I Found This Link Just As Interesting DallasNE Jul 2012 #16

again, zimmermans trama iamthebandfanman Jul 2012 #17

Did his daddy beat the crap out of him? BlueToTheBone Jul 2012 #20

Trial might be interesting jade3000 Jul 2012 #21

so heaven05 Jul 2012 #22

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #38

really? heaven05 Jul 2012 #39

I don't see how we will ever know what really happened catchnrelease Jul 2012 #23

Zimmerman stated that he was following Trayvon. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #24

Septum deviation HelenWheels Jul 2012 #28

I don't know for sure catchnrelease Jul 2012 #30

He could have hit his nose on Trayvon's head obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #32

I have to say I think Zimmerman's account is every bit as believable as that from those who want to Canopus Jul 2012 #33

I wonder if you read about Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon's last words were crim son Jul 2012 #41

I don't find it unbelievable, no. As a former policeman, I witnessed similar things. Canopus Jul 2012 #44

While there is no standard comment, crim son Jul 2012 #53

You're skating on thin ice, troll. Tread lightly. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #42

Having an opinion is 'skating on thin ice'?? According to whom? Canopus Jul 2012 #43

No, to DU. You're sounding like you watch Faux News. Again, tread lightly. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #50

I think it's doing pretty well walking the fine line crim son Jul 2012 #54

You're right. Interesting and funny to see what happens. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #55

So when was the police tape shot? DiverDave Jul 2012 #79