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clang1

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71. I had said I was done with this thread but you are correct
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 08:55 AM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:06 AM - Edit history (2)

it is just sabre ratlling bullshit and button pushing. Now it is cyber warfare as well, and where did FLAME come from? It wasn't freaking Iran or Venezuela. So Iran and Venezuela react as any nation would. It is all the same sort of escalations, all the same sort of bullshit that just feeds on itself and it's just more economic warfare and more Neo-con, Neo-liberal BS.

I mean shit people, Chavez says the same thing about NAFTA as people here do!

Opposition to perceived "neoliberal" globalization

[edit] 2005 UN World Summit

At the 2005 UN World Summit, Chávez on 15 September mocked and denounced the what he perceives to be a neoliberal model of globalization, promulgated by the Washington Consensus, as a fundamentally fraudulent and malicious scheme.[10] Referring to such arrangements as Free Trade Area of the Americas, Dominican Republic-Central America Free Trade Agreement, and the North American Free Trade Agreement, Chávez stated that such

"market-oriented policies, open market policies" were and continue to be ... the fundamental cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by the Third World".[10]

Chávez also listed the accomplishments of his social welfare programs:



So which is it people? It's all crackheaded bullshit is what it is. I support globalization myself, but it's being fucked up and I agree with Chavez and a LOT of other people on that. Hell even Ross Perot said the same about NAFTA.

The current 'cold war' approach to globalization we have is complete trash and is about nothing more than exploitation of other peoples and their resources.


Ahmadinejad has lost the favor of the theocracy clerics may3rd Jun 2012 #1
Chavez looks like shit--rumors are he's heavily drugged as cancer has reached his bones. MADem Jun 2012 #2
If Hugo lives long enough Zorro Jun 2012 #3
Yeah, the ones they got from Martignetti Fireworks Company! MADem Jun 2012 #7
Problem is that the Supreme Leader isn't going anywhere oberliner Jun 2012 #33
Indeed, and that is certainly unfortunate! nt MADem Jun 2012 #50
That statement is bullshit n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #8
It may not be so far-fetched Zorro Jun 2012 #40
Link. clang1 Jun 2012 #48
Here you go, Gomer Zorro Jun 2012 #49
Lol more attacks clang1 Jun 2012 #51
If you were unaware of this recent event Zorro Jun 2012 #54
I read a lot of stuff dude clang1 Jun 2012 #61
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #64
I looked at what you sent and nothing of substance, no real meat to it clang1 Jun 2012 #57
It was only all over the Latin America media Zorro Jun 2012 #59
So what clang1 Jun 2012 #60
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #63
hahah looooollllll I have never been called that before... Thanks clang1 Jun 2012 #53
If you liked that Zorro Jun 2012 #55
I am sure I will, sure I will clang1 Jun 2012 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author clang1 Jun 2012 #72
they look cute together JI7 Jun 2012 #67
They need to stick together. OnyxCollie Jun 2012 #4
Yup, both countries are the subject of aggressive threats and subversion from the U.S. Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #5
Heh clang1 Jun 2012 #9
I am sick of the military industrial complex as well, naaman fletcher Jun 2012 #16
Recognizing the illegal coup plotters, constant criticism of Chavez while Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #29
He wouldn't be there anymore, if that were the case. HuckleB Jun 2012 #34
I wouldn't call Columbia a shining example of anything except perhaps MADem Jun 2012 #52
Well, there was this: bitchkitty Jun 2012 #56
Terrific article. It shows when the journalist actually does some research, doesn't it? Judi Lynn Jun 2012 #68
Yep - sometimes I love the Guardian. bitchkitty Jun 2012 #73
I had said I was done with this thread but you are correct clang1 Jun 2012 #71
Both are soon to be doomed to obscurity. It's COLGATE4 Jun 2012 #6
Hugo's other close pal-Qaddafi--didn't have a good end; and his buddy al Assad isn't without woes, MADem Jun 2012 #10
The Chavez Administration at 10 years: The Economic and Social Indicators clang1 Jun 2012 #11
Right back atcha, there, pal! nt MADem Jun 2012 #12
Certainly. I am always happy to provide facts. You are welcome. n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #13
And if you ever do that, I'll give them the attention they merit. nt MADem Jun 2012 #14
Why they are right here. Just read them. n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #18
Propaganda is not a synonym for "facts." nt MADem Jun 2012 #20
Think what you wish, it's your mind. n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #22
Fact: Oil money made things look good. HuckleB Jun 2012 #35
oil price has to be well above $100 bbl to make things look good may3rd Jun 2012 #38
If it was the US, sure. HuckleB Jun 2012 #43
this is a comparison to 10 years ago Enrique Jun 2012 #70
Oil was less than 15 $ a barrel when Chavez was elected ChangoLoa Jun 2012 #74
Thank you for posting this information! RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #17
You are welcome clang1 Jun 2012 #19
The Center for Economic and Policy Research RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #21
re: I have a great deal of respect for Mark Weisbrot and for Ha-Joon Chang in particular. clang1 Jun 2012 #24
I've read "23 Things" RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #27
WEISBROT, unimpeachable credentials?! He's only co-authored ONE book 13 years ago... ChangoLoa Jun 2012 #76
You might want to read this information. MADem Jun 2012 #23
Thanks. An understandable perspective, given their board of directors... RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #25
Indeed it is one n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #26
Angelina Jolie and Fareed Zakharia don't mind them. MADem Jun 2012 #28
Whoa, Establishment Central! Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #30
Yeah, because the "establishment" is ALWAYS baaaaaad. MADem Jun 2012 #31
I don't see any 'hippies' here, certainly not where I sit clang1 Jun 2012 #32
I don't know you from a hole in the wall. And do you have a squirrel in your pocket? MADem Jun 2012 #47
Until proven otherwise Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #41
Ivy Leaguers are not "the establishment," really--they think the establishment MADem Jun 2012 #46
Ad hominem! Woo Hoo! HuckleB Jun 2012 #36
A 0,77% average annual growth rate of per capita real GDP is not a good result at all ChangoLoa Jun 2012 #75
Venezuela vs. United States Income Distribution Gini Coefficent : OECD USA vs. other members clang1 Jun 2012 #15
What does that have to do with Chavez hanging out with middle east dictators? HuckleB Jun 2012 #37
you can't argue with a well oiled runaway train wreck of 'fact' may3rd Jun 2012 #39
Not a damn thing Thank you clang1 Jun 2012 #42
You don't seem to care about "truth," since logical fallacies appear to be your friend. HuckleB Jun 2012 #44
You back up what you have to say. All I see you making is any empty statement that sounds good. clang1 Jun 2012 #45
Middle East Dictators Enrique Jun 2012 #69
12 years of windfall profits. If Venezuela couldn't approach self-sufficiency then... joshcryer Jun 2012 #58
Both of these guys are likely going to be gone soon. Then we'll need new bogeymen. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #65
Chavismo isn't going anywhere. joshcryer Jun 2012 #66
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