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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
9. Umm, sorry, but the onus is on the police,
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 01:58 PM
Jun 2012

They need to learn not to respond to every single gesture as though it were a life or death situation.

This victim just had a crash, and was probably a bit shaken up. When that happens, any person is going to automatically start checking their body to see if they're OK, make sure that things are still in their pocket, etc. They will do this without thinking, and the cops should know this and allow for it. What makes a man, just climbing out of a wreck such a potential threat? Not a damn thing except for the cop's overactive, paranoid imagination. That is the problem we need to address, that is what cops need to be trained for, not pulling their gun and firing unless the person is standing perfectly still.

Crashing while brown??? elleng Jun 2012 #1
Fairly difficult to call him 'brown' muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #8
Ok, Crashing while Hispanic. elleng Jun 2012 #14
I can't see how any stranger could tell he is Hispanic muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #22
6th generation Californian..... bonnielou Jun 2012 #39
Just a guess- but if he gestured with his right hand, hedgehog Jun 2012 #2
''People need to be taught how to behave around police officers.'' DeSwiss Jun 2012 #7
Which one? Playing dead, shedding a tail, or submission pose? Exultant Democracy Jun 2012 #53
Depends..... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #60
Umm, sorry, but the onus is on the police, MadHound Jun 2012 #9
"They need to learn not to respond to every single gesture as hedgehog Jun 2012 #15
Greetersvat walmart are smarter! Logical Jun 2012 #24
No, they are, or at least supposedly are, trained to use their discretion MadHound Jun 2012 #26
No, they're gun happy bullies who seem to shoot more unarmed "suspects" ..... marble falls Jun 2012 #41
BS kirby Jun 2012 #52
Right. elleng Jun 2012 #17
I'm amazed when the apologists for murderers with badges show up. The Doctor. Jun 2012 #10
"To Serve and Protect" bahrbearian Jun 2012 #12
Ironic, ain't it? marble falls Jun 2012 #42
A cop gestured and pointed a large gun at me last night as I drove by just1voice Jun 2012 #16
Please tell me you are not fucking serious! Logical Jun 2012 #23
no, police officers need to go back to being keepers of the peace, not paramilitary death merchants stockholmer Jun 2012 #28
They shot stonecutter357 Jun 2012 #30
Cops are taught to "double-tap" Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #34
In the military I was taught to shoot until the threat stopped. Sirveri Jun 2012 #40
War is war Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #50
I got my additional training in 2007, and it was effectively MP training. Sirveri Jun 2012 #51
This is not the case... ti66er8pooh Jun 2012 #64
Police officers need to be disarmed, then the public needn't be afraid of them. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #44
You are living in a fantasy world. MicaelS Jun 2012 #56
I should have been more specific Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #58
HMMM... Meiko Jun 2012 #62
What? The cops didn't have a "drop gun"? Were they rookies? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #3
Don't know what really happened (will we ever?) but this link w/photo of him and daughter... CurtEastPoint Jun 2012 #4
While the cops are busy trying to find out about his past pennylane100 Jun 2012 #5
Check background? bonnielou Jun 2012 #38
This confirms my belief that ALL COPS ARE PARANOID in this country MrScorpio Jun 2012 #6
That's my point exactly! Dealing with any police officer is akin to dealing hedgehog Jun 2012 #18
This type of police behavior is becoming so commonplace across our nation bupkus Jun 2012 #11
Well, of COURSE he was shot six times when he was unarmed DFW Jun 2012 #13
Firing a single shot, then stopping top see the result is something that hedgehog Jun 2012 #19
Cops aren't people. Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #35
Pigs have adopted the right wqing attitude. Shoot Trayvon first, then ask questions. WingDinger Jun 2012 #20
Sounds like you got on their bad side for all the right reasons...thank you ileus Jun 2012 #45
I moved. The cop substation was only a block away. These guys were yahoos. WingDinger Jun 2012 #46
I'm confused. sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #21
Yes, there's two agencies involved jeff47 Jun 2012 #54
What happens if the town cops sulphurdunn Jun 2012 #55
The feds don't. jeff47 Jun 2012 #59
The idiot cops in this country know there is NO DOWNSIDE to shooting first, they.... Logical Jun 2012 #25
Wonder how many of these cops are Iraq vets tawadi Jun 2012 #27
What the?? damnedifIknow Jun 2012 #29
The two shots to the right hand suggest that the cop... ManiacJoe Jun 2012 #31
The victim’s mother says that he was a heavy smoker, and that he probably tblue37 Jun 2012 #32
I thought "shooting to wound" was impossible Occulus Jun 2012 #33
No. Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #36
Yes. Folks tend to shoot where they are looking. ManiacJoe Jun 2012 #47
No Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #49
Police are not particularly well trained on shooting. PavePusher Jun 2012 #57
More about Robert bonnielou Jun 2012 #37
Yep, send em damnedifIknow Jun 2012 #43
Stop..... "Bang"...... or I'll shoot.... lib2DaBone Jun 2012 #48
You don't have to have a gun to be a threat. progressivebydesign Jun 2012 #61
Yea, that's true Meiko Jun 2012 #63
Robert was a great guy. Our Family misses him terribly. He did not deserve this. We Miss him bonnielou Dec 2012 #65
Any news on where things stand with the investigation of the cop(s) who did the shooting? villager Dec 2012 #66
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