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Response to TheWraith (Reply #32)
Sat Jun 23, 2012, 12:12 PM
proverbialwisdom (4,829 posts)
35. You are misinformed, but don't bother reading. You might learn something you don't want to hear.
I cited sources providing and analyzing very recent AUDIO RECORDINGS (WNYC, NPR) OF INTERVIEWS w CDC vetted experts.
AUDIO (starts at 13:20): http://www.wnyc.org/widgets/ondemand_player/#file=%2Faudio%2Fxspf%2F197065%2F;containerClass=
The Brian Lehrer Show
Autism Diagnosis Rates on the Rise in New Jersey
Monday, April 02, 2012
Walter Zahorodny, assistant professor of pediatrics at the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey in Newark, discusses the reasons why New Jersey's autism rate is one of the highest in the country, according to a report released last week by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. Zahorodny was the lead researcher on the New Jersey portion of the study.
Kurt Andersen (Seth Mnookin's friend): “I guess we know what they (the causes of autism) aren’t, for instance childhood vaccines. Right?”
Dr. Zahorodny: “Vaccines don’t play a significant role in autism increasing. Some small number of children probably do have autism because of an adverse vaccine reaction, but they don’t make for the overall rise.”
AUDIO (starts at 40:57): http://onpoint.wbur.org/2012/04/02/autism-numbers-skyrocket/player
Monday, April 2, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Autism Numbers Skyrocket
Geraldine Dawson, chief science officer for the advocacy group Autism Speaks.
Ashbrook: "Dr. Dawson, here's a question online from Melrose, has the link between MMR vaccine and autism been completely discredited. I notice that the word 'vaccine' has not even come up so far in this hour. Is that...for some years that had a lot of attention, is that off the table now, Dr. Dawson?"
Dr. Dawson: "There is no evidence that the increase in prevalence that we're seeing in Autism Spectrum Disorder is linked to the MMR vaccine. You know, if vaccines play a role, and there has not been any evidence thus far to show that it has, it would be a very small minority of individuals who have an underlying medical condition where the vaccine may have triggered an onset of symptoms for an already existing condition or vulnerability. So we do not believe that vaccines are an explanation of the increase and we strongly encourage parents to get their children vaccinated."
April 3, 2012
...Ashbrook, like Andersen, took the initiative of bringing the vaccine question into the interview, and in both cases it was merely an invitation to declare the vaccine hypothesis DOA. And neither Zahorodny or Dawson took the opportunity to do so!
They BOTH could have said, "Correct." And just moved on. But they didn't!
They both contradicted their interviewers presumptive statements, and said a version of, "Incorrect, vaccines do cause autism in some children, and it is a smaller number of cases than people think, but I don't see that vaccine induced autism could be playing a major factor in the increase."
IMHO... no way in h-e-double hockey sticks that these two didn't know exactly what they were doing. They had every chance to run from vaccine causation and they didn't. They confirmed it. Then they minimized it.
We have just witnessed the very quiet pushing of the envelope. Dr. Geri Dawson and Dr. Walter Zahorodny have just joined you and me and all our friends in taking our position that vaccines cause some cases of autism, just not all the cases of autism. Now we are only separated by the degree in which we believe the vaccine induced autism is a factor in the skyrocketing autism numbers.
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