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81. *Nb. "Monroe Doctrine"

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:24 AM

Jun 2016

The Monroe Doctrine was a U.S. foreign policy regarding domination of the Americas in 1823. It stated that further efforts byEuropean nations to colonize land or interfere with states in North or South America would be viewed as acts of aggression, requiring U.S. intervention.[1] At the same time, the doctrine noted that the United States would neither interfere with existing European colonies nor meddle in the internal concerns of European countries. The Doctrine was issued in 1823 at a time when nearly all Latin American colonies of Spain and Portugal had achieved or were at the point of gainingindependence from the Portuguese and Spanish Empires.

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And Russia Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #1

Only logical, as U.S. broke its promise not to expand NATO into Eastern Europe. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #21

At least we did not invade Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #22

No. We just create power vacuums after invading sovereign nations. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #23

I don't agree with that either Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #24

Which sovereign nations did the US invade in Eastern Europe? anigbrowl Jun 2016 #93

You just made that theory up. I did not classify a region. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #99

Why should we judge Eastern Europe by the standards of what goes on in the Middle East? anigbrowl Jun 2016 #100

The U.S. wants a mulligan on the Middle East and its actions in Iraq? LS_Editor Jun 2016 #104

Why should the Russians have the authority to tell Eastern European countries tabasco Jun 2016 #25

It's not in the US interest... Xolodno Jun 2016 #33

LOL, NATO was created and exists, to protect us all from Russia. Russia has no place inside it. braddy Jun 2016 #40

NATO was created in response to the Soviet Union. Xolodno Jun 2016 #48

The Russians enslaved empire and lost it, and want it back, NATO is still relevant and needed. braddy Jun 2016 #49

Well, its obvious. Xolodno Jun 2016 #52

How can something that isn't true, be "obvious" to you? braddy Jun 2016 #54

And yet...you are the one who laughed off inclusion of Russia into NATO. Xolodno Jun 2016 #57

What nation do you live in? You are far more dedicated to Russian military goals it seems than just braddy Jun 2016 #59

Again, do you have a seat at the Kremlin? Xolodno Jun 2016 #62

You are rambling more and more and repeating yourself. What country do you live in? braddy Jun 2016 #63

Any you are just lashing out because... Xolodno Jun 2016 #65

You haven't called anything, you just keep evading and rambling, and making up stuff. braddy Jun 2016 #67

No, I've supported my statements Xolodno Jun 2016 #69

No, on a thread about Poland having a NATO exercise, you drifted off into ramblings, falsehoods, and braddy Jun 2016 #71

*Nb. "Monroe Doctrine" Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #81

Have you heard of the Monroe Doctrine? yurbud Jun 2016 #103

We never made such a promise. Show us that treaty. braddy Jun 2016 #27

It was never a treaty. Xolodno Jun 2016 #34

Exactly, there never was such an agreement, I have looked it up in the past when braddy Jun 2016 #35

To say the US didn't give any assurances is fake. Xolodno Jun 2016 #39

No, it isn't fake, and no single member of NATO can issue such a treaty, braddy Jun 2016 #41

You are misrepresenting what I stated in the attempt to propogate a lie. Xolodno Jun 2016 #45

Russia is not operating on something that never existed, your mythical secret promise of a single braddy Jun 2016 #47

Wow. Did you ever come unglued. Xolodno Jun 2016 #50

You keep describing a non existent agreement with a single NATO nation, the U.S. as being what braddy Jun 2016 #53

I never indicated Russia was operating on the US given assurance of not expanding NATO. Xolodno Jun 2016 #55

You seem to be simply in support of Russia's military goals, period. You even defend them braddy Jun 2016 #56

I never stated such a thing. Xolodno Jun 2016 #60

None of that rambling post made any sense, especially since the topic is NATO braddy Jun 2016 #61

Of course it doesn't, you only see things from terms of "propoganda". Xolodno Jun 2016 #64

You can't change the fact that Sweden is being forced to up it's defenses and consider NATO braddy Jun 2016 #66

Again, I didn't say that. Xolodno Jun 2016 #68

LOL, yes, you said that Sweden alone could defeat a Russian invasion of war, which is ridiculous. braddy Jun 2016 #70

And Russia broke the Budapest memorandum Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #32

Eastern Europe wanted in because they are scared of the Russians. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #84

Which is why deciding to taunt and belittle them is so stupid scscholar Jun 2016 #26

Q: Who are the "separatists" in Poland? Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #2

re-read uhnope Jun 2016 #5

Yes. Why should other countries be concerned Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #7

The Baltics have large Russian populations hack89 Jun 2016 #8

I'm aware of the Russian-speakers in the Baltic countries, Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #10

Russia wants to rebuild their empire hack89 Jun 2016 #11

I think Russia would like to economically and socially develop Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #13

Ukraine and Crimea says otherwise. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #17

You are aware that referenda were held Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #18

After Russia destabilized those regions and forcefully ejected the legitimate government. hack89 Jun 2016 #19

Crimea being part of Ukraine is a bit of a stretch. Xolodno Jun 2016 #36

That still does not justify a military take over by Russia, now does it? nt hack89 Jun 2016 #37

A military, supported coups, etc. are never justified...including those done by us. Xolodno Jun 2016 #42

Based on Russia's recent behavior, I would say the Baltics and Poland have legitimate concerns. hack89 Jun 2016 #44

Well of course they should strengthen their ties with NATO. It would be foolish not to. But.... Xolodno Jun 2016 #46

lol. your reply is right out of Kremlin talking points uhnope Jun 2016 #102

Because these countries also have borders with Russia uhnope Jun 2016 #9

I see. But why would Russia want to "stir up" Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #12

The same motivation that Putin had in invading, occupying, and annexing uhnope Jun 2016 #14

I see. Thank you. n/t Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #16

His reasoning is flawed, like usual. Xolodno Jun 2016 #38

lol versus your Kafkaesque/Orwellian "reasoning" that always ended up with Hail Putin uhnope Jun 2016 #101

It is Russia moving up to NATO borders, NATO is positioning within NATO itself. braddy Jun 2016 #28

So NATO's job is to protect countries who deny the right to vote to some of its "residents". happyslug Jun 2016 #72

NATO is an alliance to protect each other from Russia. braddy Jun 2016 #73

So we are to protect a country that DENY the right to vote from a country that permits such votes? happyslug Jun 2016 #74

NATO is the alliance, and NATO has no intention of surrendering to Russia, and that goes for the braddy Jun 2016 #75

Godspeed. nt uhnope Jun 2016 #3

Real message: US... send money... lots of green backs... now yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #4

"Security fears" is establishment propaganda speak for Onlaketime Jun 2016 #6

Thank you. I have observed the same. n/t Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #15

sorry, but you are posting falsehoods uhnope Jun 2016 #20

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NATO is not invading anyone up Russia's borders, it is Russia invading to NATO's borders. braddy Jun 2016 #29

... MattSh Jun 2016 #30

I guess you agree that invading Ukraine is conquering right up to NATO borders, whereas NATO braddy Jun 2016 #31

What NATO member has Russia invaded???? happyslug Jun 2016 #76

Please don't waste my time making up things for me, I neve mentioned that they had invaded a NATO braddy Jun 2016 #77

I foresee War if the NATO keeps up its present polices. happyslug Jun 2016 #79

You seem confused, it is NATO who is in charge of their own defense, and you are wrong to call braddy Jun 2016 #80

I think the drop in oil prices was engineered CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #83

because the Poles have no reason based on their history to fear Russia nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #51

Russia left Poland voluntary, something that we can not said of the Germans happyslug Jun 2016 #78

I Support This Norman Conch Quest Jun 2016 #43

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3,000 American moms, dads, brothers and sisters... Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #89

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Onlaketime. That's Ok, we understand & get used to it. Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #91

Not proud that Canada is taking part in this dog and pony show Monk06 Jun 2016 #58

I don't think Canadas government would want putin to 'pull another Ukraine' on Poland either. Sunlei Jun 2016 #86

I know a Polish couple that immigrated to Canada in the late eighties Monk06 Jun 2016 #98

I would like to thank posters above Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #82

This thread is infested with paid Putin shills... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #85

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LOL, I've been a socialist since my teens and are accusing me of McCarthyism? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #94

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Yep, you are a conspiracy loon, arguing with you is pointless. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #96

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Technically, this is on the Russian border. sofa king Jun 2016 #105

Thanks for that! Nihil Jun 2016 #106