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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:48 PM

22. Actually, some of that sounds rather good. Why aren't WE doing that?

Stuff like the DC Fly-In & Activist Training Boot Camp. I realize we have the Netroots gathering, but are we actively pushing any sort of training boot camp? Is ANYONE on our side, anywhere, pushing activist training meetings or teach-ins or any of those? They're getting their activists fired up. Are we?

I find myself envious of the organization they've put together. It seems to be rather effective. WE NEED THAT STUFF TOO!!!!!!

I just keep wondering where OUR version of this is. Where's OUR version of kkkarl rove? Where are OUR devious thinkers? Where's OUR version of the College republi-CONS - who do the dirty tricks and get away with them and don't just beat the opposition but SCREW them into the dirt?

YES. I said dirty tricks. YES. I said kkkarl rove. YES. I said devious thinkers. That's what we need. Because unfortunately, THAT is how the game is played now. And if we don't do it straight back to them and butt-fuck them and kick the snot out of them, they'll keep coming back stronger and stronger and more and more effective.

And don't start in with me that "oh but, but, but, we CAN'T go there! That makes us no better than them! That makes us just like them!" I actually WANT to be like them. Because they're feared, and they own practically every aspect of the prosecution of this kind of warfare., and because they win. They don't play by the rules. They don't even recognize rules. And as long as we do, we're chumps. And we're gonna get rolled. Again and again and again.

And you don't govern if you don't win. You don't set the agenda if you don't win. You don't even get to determine how long Congress actually shows its sorry collective ass up to work if you don't win.

This is politics. Not a church social (which, I realize, can get pretty nasty and political). Not a day at the beach (where many of us don't even go anymore because of all the toxins in the water and sand). It's the shitty, nasty, icky, filthy, ruthless, bloodthirsty, immoral, and amoral world of politics. And if you try to play it clean and kind, you just get rolled. Everyone says they hate negative ads - but dammit, they WORK! They get RESULTS!!! And if we don't get results, we're screwed, and even worse - our whole country is screwed.

And I hate what I just wrote. It frankly kinda disgusts me. I apologize with all my heart. It makes me cringe even realizing I'm feeling compelled to think this way. But that's the reality - much as most of us here would like it NOT to be. That's how it is. We talk about a level playing field all the time here. And as long as we play nice, we absolutely guarantee it won't be a level playing field. I want to know where the scale is that WE can press OUR collective thumb down upon, to be "fair and balanced" to OUR side.

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