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In the discussion thread: Trayvon Martin Case Prompts Civil Rights Commission Investigation On Stand Your Ground Laws [View all]

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Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:51 PM

asjr (9,705 posts)

9. From what I have read and heard about it

SYG has become a license to kill. On anyone's ground!

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56 replies	Author	Time	Post
Trayvon Martin Case Prompts Civil Rights Commission Investigation On Stand Your Ground Laws [View all]	Tx4obama	Jun 2012	OP
A link to additional article, below	Tx4obama	Jun 2012	#1
Long overdue.	kestrel91316	Jun 2012	#2
Yes. nm	rhett o rick	Jun 2012	#3
Finally ~ why the delay on fighting	goclark	Jun 2012	#10
These Stand Your Groundlaws place the responsibility and privilege of making certain decisions about	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#4
Exactly. n/t	Hoyt	Jun 2012	#5
Absolutely agree. nt	chknltl	Jun 2012	#7
you think duty to retreat was just?	gejohnston	Jun 2012	#13
The presumption is that you should not kill anyone, that murder is never justified.	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#18
might want to take a second look	gejohnston	Jun 2012	#27
The prosecutor only files charges if there is a question as to whether the murder was justified.	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#28
I didn't coin the term.	gejohnston	Jun 2012	#30
The correct translation from the Old Testament is "Thou Shalt not murder" ...	spin	Jun 2012	#33
Yes. I understand the Commandment in those terms and agree with you.	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#37
That is your view ...	spin	Jun 2012	#42
Hogwash	Major Nikon	Jun 2012	#21
hogwash	gejohnston	Jun 2012	#24
Feel free to list when "presumption of innocence" was suspended in the US, because I can't find it	Major Nikon	Jun 2012	#31
why not look up the law?	gejohnston	Jun 2012	#32
You should have read it yourself before you commented	Major Nikon	Jun 2012	#35
Did you actually read the two situations where the aggressor	hack89	Jun 2012	#38
Did you actually read this thread?	Major Nikon	Jun 2012	#41
I was just pointing out that the exceptions are very limited. That's all. nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#43
The exception is big enough to drive a Mack truck through	Major Nikon	Jun 2012	#44
No - it says the other guy can't kill you for starting a fist fight or verbal confrontation.	hack89	Jun 2012	#46
That's not what it says	Major Nikon	Jun 2012	#47
No - there is still the reasonable man standard	hack89	Jun 2012	#50
So how do you account for the fact that the law doesn't say what you're claiming?	Major Nikon	Jun 2012	#52
That has been the standard for self defense for at least 15 years	hack89	Jun 2012	#53
Did you read the actual law ?	hack89	Jun 2012	#51
OK, I've had enough	Major Nikon	Jun 2012	#54
No problem - interpreting statutes can get complicated	hack89	Jun 2012	#56
I did read it.	gejohnston	Jun 2012	#45
Right. For example, in the Zimmerman case, if the case went to trial,	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#40
So rather than trust in the jury system, you'd rather leave it up to police	csziggy	Jun 2012	#22
actually not true	gejohnston	Jun 2012	#23
No they don't.	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2012	#17
You are quite incorrect as to the nature of SYG laws	ProgressiveProfessor	Jun 2012	#25
They never had unaccountable power. The DA, for one, is usually an elected official, not	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#39
FL is unique in that regards	ProgressiveProfessor	Jun 2012	#48
As for example, when someone is robbing a convenience store at gunpoint.	JDPriestly	Jun 2012	#49
A possibility for something good to come from Trayvan Martin's ...	etherealtruth	Jun 2012	#6
From the beginning, it's the only positive outcome I've seen coming from this tragedy. . .	Journeyman	Jun 2012	#11
The way racism affects SYG, they MUST look at this case:	chknltl	Jun 2012	#8
From what I have read and heard about it	asjr	Jun 2012	#9
because you have been ill informed	gejohnston	Jun 2012	#14
Yup. Exactly what the media wants you to believe ...	spin	Jun 2012	#34
Finally.	jwirr	Jun 2012	#12
Maybe they should focus on Texas too ...ya think?	L0oniX	Jun 2012	#15
Thank Goodness!	patrice	Jun 2012	#16
K&R. Long overdue. Remember Marissa Alexander.	Overseas	Jun 2012	#19
No - she got 20 years for leaving the situation and then coming back with a gun. nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#55
They need to look at WHO is advancing the passage of SYG.	Ford_Prefect	Jun 2012	#20
Wonder if they are ever going to look into the ongoing capricious use of hate crime enhancements	ProgressiveProfessor	Jun 2012	#26
The Unholy Trinity: Koch Brothers, ALEC, and the NRA	crunch60	Jun 2012	#29
No bad thing in reviewing and reassessing any piece of legislation...	LanternWaste	Jun 2012	#36

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