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freshwest

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50. I would hope that he is not being rewarded in any way. But the dead are unable to state their case.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 01:23 AM
Jun 2012

We only have his claims and the opinions of others to say what happened. We have logic, the main thing being he should not and did not indicate he 'felt threatened' while inside his vehicle. His actions were not that of a person afraid, until likely the last moment. He precipitated this.

We have a problem with unspoken racism in this country; but more than that, we have a problem with money. Minorities have been kept poor by the acts perpetrated upon them, and regardless of the race of the people in control, their crime now is being perceived to be poor and shiftless, as if their skin color is a marker for poverty.

How many blacks have been harassed while driving, who owned their cars but were treated as if they were car thieves; how many have been stopped in neighborhoods because others assume they are unable to buy property?

Would Z have felt entitled to go after a white man (who by default with some people) was a rightful visitor in that area? Or someone he thought was dressed in a way that in his mind showed affluence?

Z's statements and those who support him, make the assumption that a possible crime was in the offing. Why is it that many feel black males are more likely to be criminals, judging them on a stereotype?

I suggest it is a notion built of the fact that due to economic circumstance, and the difference in charging, there are more blacks in jail. The idea that blacks are more genetically or in some other way more likely to do crimes, is inaccurate and cannot be proven.

It is the economic situation, the lack of being able to get an adequate defense that leads to incarceration. Other races commit crimes, some appear to not be punished, especially if they have the money for a good defense.

I'm not sure that anyone is to blame for this for the most part, other than Z.

Attorney: Zimmerman's bond request delayed [View all] Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2012 OP
Maybe the lawyer is going to dump his client for lying to him? MADem Jun 2012 #1
O'Mara took a hit, no doubt about it Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2012 #3
They weren't too frightened and confused to actually HIDE the money and passports rocktivity Jun 2012 #7
It's a weak-assed "excuse," and it makes me wonder what O'Mara is up to Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2012 #10
It's ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #33
He's still defending him with the picture he's painting. Poor, pitiful. Pitiful, yes. Poor, no. freshwest Jun 2012 #13
Kid gloves is exactly right. Why is this? Boabab Jun 2012 #49
I would hope that he is not being rewarded in any way. But the dead are unable to state their case. freshwest Jun 2012 #50
Well said. I completely agree. Boabab Jun 2012 #51
He might be charging him more, then--based on the dough in the secret stash! MADem Jun 2012 #18
I think ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #32
Didn't GZ have two previous lawyers who also dumped him? watrwefitinfor Jun 2012 #15
Yeah, and those guys were the "shaken baby syndrome" ass clowns Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2012 #25
Yes--a tag team of nitwits who looked like they were milking the case to make their reputations. nt MADem Jun 2012 #44
"We feel the failure to disclose these funds was caused by fear, mistrust and confusion. frylock Jun 2012 #2
yeah. barbtries Jun 2012 #6
+1,000 freshwest Jun 2012 #9
. rocktivity Jun 2012 #8
In the meantime..... Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #4
Time to order more Doritos, Jolly Ranchers and beef sticks Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2012 #11
Boo frigging hoo. Trayvon Martin rots in a casket six feet under. MADem Jun 2012 #19
EXACTLY. Zoeisright Jun 2012 #28
I just have no sympathy for Zimmerman and I never will. A dispatcher told him to NOT bother that MADem Jun 2012 #34
and that's the bottom line... Blue_Roses Jun 2012 #54
good. barbtries Jun 2012 #5
O'Mara must think he's better off in jail than out of it. bluedigger Jun 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #14
What facts do you have that hes been a lifetime liar? Old Vet Jun 2012 #21
Source, please! tosh Jun 2012 #27
What Trayvon did to his bus driver one day? Zoeisright Jun 2012 #29
You forgot dpibel Jun 2012 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #31
How long have you been a part of the Zimmerman family or friends with them? Leontius Jun 2012 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #41
So you've know the family that long. Good to know you have all that information Leontius Jun 2012 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jun 2012 #45
Two problems I defend no one and you still don't know shit. Leontius Jun 2012 #46
that may be a stretch... Blue_Roses Jun 2012 #55
I think you're confusing George Zimmerman with George Bailey. n/t bluesbassman Jun 2012 #36
He worked under the table as a party bouncer. He beat the shit out of a drunk girl. MADem Jun 2012 #37
Thats what I said the day i heard about the pay pal $205k juniorbonner Jun 2012 #53
I Guess I'm in the minority view then......... Old Vet Jun 2012 #16
His other passport was not "expired." Where are you getting this stuff? MADem Jun 2012 #22
The passport he turned into the court leftynyc Jun 2012 #23
it's even better than that magical thyme Jun 2012 #48
Other than the facts, you nailed it dpibel Jun 2012 #26
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #38
dam. wish I was indigent like George. the $204K in his paypal when his wife claimed they had nothing magical thyme Jun 2012 #47
Is that a bag of Prescription Meds for Zimmerman the female officer is holding bahrbearian Jun 2012 #17
Looks like it. Good observation. n/t crim son Jun 2012 #20
excellent catch grasswire Jun 2012 #24
Some background on some of his meds: Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2012 #39
It's not just the side effects of the meds..it's the withdrawal symptoms of the meds, too. msanthrope Jun 2012 #42
a lot of meds plus what he bought at jail commisary juniorbonner Jun 2012 #52
They might be using that for a defense, I bet he might wish he had a blood test that night. bahrbearian Jun 2012 #56
GZ refused hospital on the night of the killing - why? juniorbonner Jun 2012 #57
This says it all Stargazer09 Jun 2012 #35
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