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csziggy

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47. Zimmerman claimed Trayvon Martin 'circled' his vehicle while Zimmerman was on the phone
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:23 AM
Jun 2012

If at that point, Zimmerman had opened his window and said, "Hi, I'm neighborhood watch, do you need any help?" Martin could have told him that he was a guest in the neighborhood. Zimmerman then would not have had any excuse to follow and any suspicions should have been set aside.

Since Zimmerman was on the phone to SPD at that point, if Martin had been aggressive, police would have been on the way immediately. That was BEFORE Zimmerman got out of his vehicle to follow, BEFORE the SPD dispatcher told him he did not 'need' to follow.

Even if Martin had been one of the people who had been committing burglaries in the neighborhood, having someone see them and putting them on notice by talking to them would have frightened them away from committing a crime that night. That would have been MUCH more effective in preventing a crime than following someone whose intentions Zimmerman did not know. Very few criminals are willing to break into homes when they know that a neighborhood watch person has had a good look at their face. They would move on to another neighborhood where no one can identify them.

I think the charge of Second Degree murder is accurate. If Zimmerman had listened to the 911 teddy51 May 2012 #1
Yes, people should always take the advice of 911 dispatchers Neue Regel May 2012 #6
You can find mistakes or errors from any profession under the sun, but Florida isn't Denver Uncle Joe May 2012 #10
Clearly George Zimmerman SHOULD HAVE. That is the point. Lex May 2012 #11
anectdotal BootinUp May 2012 #12
And how does that in any way relate to what happened in the Zimmerman case? sabrina 1 May 2012 #32
What's the point of 911 if people aren't going to listen to them? ck4829 May 2012 #33
Oh, god... Blue_Tires May 2012 #35
Yeah, this is comparable because it's obvious that Trayvon would've smashed the window deutsey May 2012 #36
They ignored the operator, and got shot. boppers Jun 2012 #53
the cops had it right naaman fletcher May 2012 #40
Sounds actually pretty reasonable ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #2
Ah, yes. Florida is an NRA paradise. Lots of fear, stupidity, racism, and poverty. onehandle May 2012 #4
I was stating that the police report was reasonable in its conclusion ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #24
Lack of wealth? Boabab May 2012 #20
IIRC he wasn't making much in the way of income and his house was upside down. ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #25
Anyway it turns out, I think Zimmerman's life is pretty much toast, he will be crunch60 May 2012 #41
Got my right wing hat on. The pro zimmerman side will claim he wasn't ordered not to follow... DLine May 2012 #3
Yet Trayvon was supposed to follow every request of Zimmerman MattBaggins May 2012 #5
Why would you put a right wing hat on? BootinUp May 2012 #13
Because I look dashing with a tri corner. DLine May 2012 #39
If you have any photos... BootinUp May 2012 #43
Well played, sir. eom boppers Jun 2012 #54
From The pictures posted on Huffpo... Grassy Knoll May 2012 #7
Trayvon Martin should be a NRA hero. dougg May 2012 #8
Obviously, Trayvon was the wrong color. nt Boabab May 2012 #21
Too many state and federal laws prohibit. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #29
Look at who in Florida has failed to get SYG immunity csziggy Jun 2012 #46
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2012 #9
Doh!! Zoeisright May 2012 #14
This statement is confusing grok May 2012 #15
The statement is clear. intheflow May 2012 #16
Agreed d06204 May 2012 #17
Zimmerman claimed Trayvon Martin 'circled' his vehicle while Zimmerman was on the phone csziggy Jun 2012 #47
from what Martin's Father was told neohippie Jun 2012 #49
The timeframe for tha scenario just does not work csziggy Jun 2012 #50
One can assume that Zimmerman made that up. yardwork Jun 2012 #52
Interesting how FAUX news do not allow comments on this story fingrinn May 2012 #18
I think the DA probably should have gone with Manslaughter teewrex May 2012 #19
Manslaughter should be a viable option for the jury. nt Boabab May 2012 #22
IIRC that is automatic in FL ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #26
The affadavit for the charges doesn't state so. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #28
I want to remember it was discussed here ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #37
The Casey Anthony jury had the option of lesser charges csziggy Jun 2012 #48
Wouldn't Zimmerman be absolutely covered in Trayvon's blood if he had been lying beneath him FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #23
Depends ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #27
I would think shot in the heart there would be madokie May 2012 #30
But there would be some type of spray. There is a full body shot at this link FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #31
"You don't need to do that" is a lot different from, "Do NOT do that." n/t Ian David May 2012 #34
I agree the dispatcher should have been more precise in her wording. intheflow May 2012 #42
"...we don't need you to do that," is the more precise wording. teknomanzer Jun 2012 #51
Yes, I agree with that. slackmaster May 2012 #38
Thank you, Capt. Obvious Mayflower1 Jun 2012 #44
Apparently there were two confrontations... neohippie Jun 2012 #45
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