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JNelson6563

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73. Wow! What a post!

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 09:52 AM

Jun 2012

A very touching story, kind soul. Your friend was lucky to have you though I am sure she was unable to fully realize it.

Very good information in that post too!

Thanks for all of it. It couldn't have been easy to share that story and it was thoughtful to provide the video. Positive contributions all!

Julie

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Suspect's family: 'We could see this coming'..( Seattle shooter) [View all] dixiegrrrrl May 2012 OP

I'm sure there is a lot more behind this than apparent... hlthe2b May 2012 #1

They said he refused to deal with his problem. dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #3

Yes, I realize... But I think I would have expressed some of that... hlthe2b May 2012 #5

and who are you to think yourself mopinko May 2012 #10

Oh, STOP IT.. I repeatedly stated there was a lot to the story not given and that I repeatedly give hlthe2b May 2012 #13

People need to stop jumping on your comment. You are entitled to your opinion. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #34

and i am entitled to mine. mopinko May 2012 #35

That is your very wrong and very hlthe2b May 2012 #36

well, i will just say mopinko May 2012 #38

No. You read into my comment what was NOT there. What you WANTED to see in order to vent... hlthe2b May 2012 #39

Sometimes we all read something in a comment that wasn't meant to be hurtful. Some southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #74

Exactly. I have no problem with that. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #37

At some point this need for some DUers to twist innocent comments into a focus for a pack attack... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #57

I don't know how he can stop this bully pack. I don't think people realize they are doing it. By southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #58

Yes, indeed.. hlthe2b Jun 2012 #59

Evidently those female soldier might be in trouble. The military isn't against breastfeeding. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #62

I had someone call when I think the segment was aired...what happened? hlthe2b Jun 2012 #63

Remember how I tried to say that and people jumped on me about it? I know the military southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #64

Oh, yes... Even wearing anything but the smallest gold stud earrings is verboten-- hlthe2b Jun 2012 #65

Yep that was I was trying to say but I guess people just didn't get it. They didn't even get southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #66

That is the problem with this phenomenon... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #67

I am going to try not letting this bully tactics go on when I see it. I think your right when we southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #68

But some love to slather on the self-righteous lotion JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #72

You are definitely entitled to your own opinion SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #60

My families best efforts to deal with a severely disturbed relative... Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2012 #8

That is truly horrible. My sympathies, Walter. hlthe2b May 2012 #11

Ummmm...... Coyote_Bandit May 2012 #16

Stop it. I was not throwing stones. I have had similar issues in my own extended family and faced hlthe2b May 2012 #18

I too Coyote_Bandit May 2012 #25

Your accusation in lieu of any kind of civil discussion hlthe2b May 2012 #27

The family of this man Coyote_Bandit May 2012 #42

I asked a rhetorical quesion... hardly an accusation. hlthe2b May 2012 #44

You just don't get it do you? Coyote_Bandit May 2012 #55

You have used me as your personal punching bag... hlthe2b May 2012 #56

maybe you should try mopinko May 2012 #45

Perhaps you should apologize for misconstruing everything I said, especially after repeatedly hlthe2b May 2012 #46

oh please mopinko May 2012 #52

Hey, you needed a punching bag...and I served that function for you... hlthe2b May 2012 #53

Once your family member is 18 there is next to nothing you can do Marrah_G May 2012 #23

I'd like to know how he got his guns. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #2

Have you ever personally tried to get someone a psych evaluation against kestrel91316 May 2012 #4

I've seen it done AtheistCrusader May 2012 #6

Angry and negative. That is the mode of today. It would be very hard to prove that he was bad jwirr May 2012 #7

It is so frustrating for the family to see the fuse lit EFerrari May 2012 #14

Yes, I have helped family go through committment hearings also. However I also understand the jwirr May 2012 #17

Well, when a patient is willing to be admitted, there is no question of a rights violation. EFerrari May 2012 #20

Ding, ding, ding.... MountainMama May 2012 #50

Fla. has the Baker act, which can provide evaluation against a person's will dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #19

I did just that in early December last year, to no avail. Link to most of the sad story... slackmaster May 2012 #30

Wow! What a post! JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #73

It's very difficult to get someone involuntarily evaluated. Marrah_G May 2012 #24

It varies by state, but in general the person has to do something extreme, e.g. a suicide attempt slackmaster May 2012 #31

If he had been 'involuntarily committed' by the mental health court in WA, he would have been... freshwest May 2012 #47

I think it was Reagan gasser85 May 2012 #48

Since I lived in the Nixon era, I guarantee you Reagan was not the first. freshwest May 2012 #49

Actually, RobinA Jun 2012 #69

A quote like that may prove significant in a civil suit for wrongful death.... n/t Drum May 2012 #9

Who would be sued? dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #21

Not really Marrah_G May 2012 #26

What a very sad story all around. Innocent people died because that man didn't southernyankeebelle May 2012 #12

re: hlthe2b May 2012 #28

Are you saying we need to do better at forcing people into treatment that they don't consent to... slackmaster May 2012 #32

No. No one can help a person if they don't want it. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #33

That's actually not true. EFerrari May 2012 #41

Stand corrected. I am not a doctor. Every state is different. southernyankeebelle May 2012 #43

Pick Your Poison RobinA Jun 2012 #70

I choose education slackmaster Jun 2012 #71

It's too expensive to treat your health problems gratuitous May 2012 #15

He had at least 2 rage related arrests in the past, to boot dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #22

No convictions, he'd be allowed. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #29

Mental illness is a very sad situation. Families deal with it the best they can. I had a beautiful southernyankeebelle May 2012 #40

Well that's refreshing 4th law of robotics May 2012 #51

"a ball of negative energy" with a latte mocha may3rd May 2012 #54

Yeah, it's a total shock about the mental health problems. Not. BlueIris Jun 2012 #61