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In the discussion thread: Venezuela bans private gun ownership [View all]

Sat Jun 2, 2012, 08:18 AM

hack89 (21,546 posts)

94. 150,000,000 gun owners. 8700 murders. Do the math and tell me about that "tendency".

think about how few guns are actually needed to commit all the violent crime in America and tell me how you will eliminate enough guns to have a significant impact. For that matter, tell me how organized crime will not be able to fulfill that demand.

The problem is criminals. Focus justice system like a laser on violent criminals and lock them up for a long time. Legalize drugs to remover the reason for gangs. Fund mental health.

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119 replies	Author	Time	Post
Venezuela bans private gun ownership [View all]	hack89	Jun 2012	OP
I'm sure the criminals in Caracas will be eager to turn in their weapons in honor of Dear Leader	slackmaster	Jun 2012	#1
mexican chainsaws would be the alternative	may3rd	Jun 2012	#61
Some people will celebrate the removal of their freedom	NeedleCast	Jun 2012	#2
They'll be here any second to tell us we need to educate ourselves about Venezuela	slackmaster	Jun 2012	#3
Sanity. nt	BlueIris	Jun 2012	#4
Yes - because violent criminals always obey gun control laws	hack89	Jun 2012	#7
Private security companies can have guns.	Lasher	Jun 2012	#5
Are Chavez's Brown Shirts going to go door to door...	-..__...	Jun 2012	#6
Is that you, Glenn Beck?	harmonicon	Jun 2012	#16
But it makes perfect sense to call someone Glenn Beck because you disagree with them.	Lasher	Jun 2012	#21
No, it's Glenn Beck who I first heard use that argument without getting called on it.	harmonicon	Jun 2012	#26
Review your history	appal_jack	Jun 2012	#36
Link to Hitler and Stalin opposing private gun ownership?	tabasco	Jun 2012	#49
lots of nutter sites, which I won't link to, but Wikipedia too	appal_jack	Jun 2012	#58
Interesting.	tabasco	Jun 2012	#65
That last quote is in reference to the people of the eastern nations that germany conquered on the w	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2012	#80
I believe you're somewhat incorrect about Germany...	LanternWaste	Jun 2012	#52
See link immediately above.	appal_jack	Jun 2012	#59
It still represented a relaxation of the firearms laws from the Weimar Republic.	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2012	#81
True enough	appal_jack	Jun 2012	#98
Hitler also implemented a 40 hour work week, paid vacations, and social security	Major Nikon	Jun 2012	#75
I hate to break it to you, but, uh...	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#79
That was beautiful, man. (nt)	harmonicon	Jun 2012	#86
Only lunatics and some Teabaggers believe that they could somehow oppose the federal	Flatulo	Jun 2012	#89
Straw men & lies...	appal_jack	Jun 2012	#100
Yes, I am the one bringing that up	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#101
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?	thegoogolplex123	Dec 2012	#118
Welcome to DU	Scootaloo	Dec 2012	#119
It would be nice if Ted Nugent had his weapons confiscated	Kingofalldems	Jun 2012	#8
And the gungeoneers come out of their hidy hole.	onehandle	Jun 2012	#9
So you don't view this as a news worthy story? nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#11
With the gun-grabbers flailing incoherently behind them, apparently.	appal_jack	Jun 2012	#44
I am very glad to see the people of	Harmony Blue	Jun 2012	#10
I don't share your faith in police	hack89	Jun 2012	#12
Provided that "getting killed by somebody with a gun" isn't a crime, sure.	boppers	Jun 2012	#72
Define "huge"	hack89	Jun 2012	#93
300% increase in Florida.	boppers	Jun 2012	#105
To the massive number of 36	hack89	Jun 2012	#106
How many of your family would you consider significant?	boppers	Jun 2012	#107
Is zero deaths your standard?	hack89	Jun 2012	#108
No people who died "because they needed to be killed" is my goal.	boppers	Jun 2012	#110
SYG is not a free ticket to kill	hack89	Jun 2012	#111
People who carry guns usually already know how to look like cowardly victims.	boppers	Jun 2012	#112
If that is the best you have	hack89	Jun 2012	#113
Indeed.	boppers	Jun 2012	#115
"May issue" is going away	hack89	Jun 2012	#116
That's right, never been safer...	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#85
150,000,000 gun owners. 8700 murders. Do the math and tell me about that "tendency".	hack89	Jun 2012	#94
You're underlining my base point.	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#102
You really haven't being paying attention, have you?	hack89	Jun 2012	#104
The difference is that the European states who've severely	Flatulo	Jun 2012	#46
I would not welcome this ban with open arms and I live in VT	cali	Jun 2012	#76
Prepping for what's coming when St Hugo dies	Dreamer Tatum	Jun 2012	#13
Certainly his private militia will still be armed. nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#14
He has a private militia now? Fascinating. That's a news story I'd like to see a link to. (nt)	harmonicon	Jun 2012	#15
Not familiar with the Bolivarian militia?	hack89	Jun 2012	#17
That's not the same thing. (nt)	harmonicon	Jun 2012	#24
An armed militia answerable only to the President?	hack89	Jun 2012	#28
Perhaps you've heard of the Secret Service or the CIA. (nt)	harmonicon	Jun 2012	#29
And perhaps you have heard of Congressional oversight and budget powers?	hack89	Jun 2012	#30
In a way you could say that they all are, as the US president is the commander...	harmonicon	Jun 2012	#32
It will all be moot in a couple of months.	hack89	Jun 2012	#35
chavez polling at 45% to capriles 31%..	frylock	Jun 2012	#51
He will be dead. nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#54
Vulture much? n/t	bitchkitty	Jun 2012	#70
Just pointing out the likely truth. nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#95
Isnt the Secret Service under the Treasury? nt	Flatulo	Jun 2012	#47
Oh, possibly in theory - I'd forgotten about that.	harmonicon	Jun 2012	#87
This message was self-deleted by its author	freshwest	Jun 2012	#37
No. Part of the Department of Homeland Security	hack89	Jun 2012	#39
This message was self-deleted by its author	freshwest	Jun 2012	#42
Why can't it be part of the governement chain of command	hack89	Jun 2012	#43
This message was self-deleted by its author	freshwest	Jun 2012	#48
Because the article specifically states it was taken out of the military chain of command? nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#53
Answering out of courtesy, deleting the rest. I don't do Gungeon threads.	freshwest	Jun 2012	#57
So Venezula and Chavez are not news worthy? Ok. nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#62
It's a twofer!Room for gun wavers to all focus on the Venezuelan President who might grab their guns	Judi Lynn	Jun 2012	#18
"Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, ...."	hack89	Jun 2012	#19
That brings Venezuela closer into line with the UK for example	dipsydoodle	Jun 2012	#20
England does not have a universal gun ban	hack89	Jun 2012	#22
All guns start out legal. Which is why England got it right.	onehandle	Jun 2012	#23
Criminals don't care about gun laws.	Flatulo	Jun 2012	#25
and ?	dipsydoodle	Jun 2012	#27
So the Brits need to focus on criminals and not guns. nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#31
No doubt they'll ban guns again, since it apparently didn't take the first time. nt	Flatulo	Jun 2012	#50
I'm suitably astounded with your deficit in comprehension / lack of knowledge of the UK	dipsydoodle	Jun 2012	#55
And I'm likewise astounded by your inability to recognize irony. nt	Flatulo	Jun 2012	#77
Still a tiny fraction per 100k people compared to here in gun madness central.	onehandle	Jun 2012	#33
That's not true.	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2012	#83
Dunno. I'm pretty pro-gun, pro-RKBA but	AtheistCrusader	Jun 2012	#82
I guess they think it will be different from Jamaica.	crayfish	Jun 2012	#34
I don't neccessarily agree with a total ban.	Comrade_McKenzie	Jun 2012	#38
By government supplied doctor's of course	hack89	Jun 2012	#40
It would help filter out the paranoid.	boppers	Jun 2012	#73
And the political opposition or those with the wrong colored skin.	hack89	Jun 2012	#90
What about psychiatric exams to vote?	FrodosPet	Jun 2012	#60
Flying a plane, driving a bus, handling fireworks, selling alcohol...	boppers	Jun 2012	#74
Dictatorships always do	Ter	Jun 2012	#41
Funny, I thought easy access to firearms was supposed to prevent government tyranny like this... nt	killbotfactory	Jun 2012	#71
Vive Chavez!!!!	harun	Jun 2012	#45
I don't know what good this would do.	Nolimit	Jun 2012	#56
Venezuela Launches Official Production of Third-Generation Kalashnikov Rifles ( 2010 article )	may3rd	Jun 2012	#63
Guaranteed flame war combining Hugo and guns	geek tragedy	Jun 2012	#64
I tried to find an Olive Garden angle but couldn't. nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#66
NJ Olive Gardens are obviously mafiaosa fronts	Baclava	Jun 2012	#68
Kid, the next time I say something like "Let's go someplace like Venezuela,	slackmaster	Jun 2012	#67
NRA members;	greiner3	Jun 2012	#69
Hugo is right on the money....	unkachuck	Jun 2012	#78
"Hugo Chavez's government says the ultimate aim is to disarm all civilians" nt	hack89	Jun 2012	#91
Venezuela has historically high murder rates, gun violence: Chavez gets blamed and attacked for it	Alamuti Lotus	Jun 2012	#84
Yes.	Prometheus Bound	Jun 2012	#88
It getting worse under Chavez	hack89	Jun 2012	#92
Chavez has been using the wealth of that nation to buy the votes of the poor	Flatulo	Jun 2012	#96
I'm sure all those poor, toothless, exploited	bitchkitty	Jun 2012	#109
LOL	Flatulo	Jun 2012	#114
I don't get it. How does free dentistry and longer coffee breaks for the poor become 'looting'.	Prometheus Bound	Jun 2012	#117
"Venezuela" what does that mean?	treestar	Jun 2012	#97
I have no doubt it was completely legal	hack89	Jun 2012	#99
Completely dumb. (nt)	w4rma	Jun 2012	#103

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