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truthisfreedom

(23,145 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:45 PM Feb 2016

Coin-Toss Fact Check: No, Coin Flips Did Not Win Iowa For Hillary Clinton [View all]

Source: NPR

It's been reported that there were as many as six sites where ties were decided by the flip of a coin — and Clinton won every single one. The odds of that happening are 1 in 64, or less than 2 percent. What's more, that gave her just slightly more than her margin of victory over Sanders — four delegates. Things that make you go hmm. Indeed.
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Except that doesn't tell the whole story. In fact, there were at least a dozen tiebreakers — and "Sen. Sanders won at least a handful," an Iowa Democratic Party official told NPR.

Gone unmentioned so far is that even if Clinton won that Miracle Six — and there were no other coin tosses — it would make little difference in the outcome. That is, in part, because of the complicated way Iowa Democrats allocate their delegates — and what was being reported on election night and what wasn't.

Let's step back and explain that for a second; and this is tricky, so stay with us.

Read more: http://www.npr.org/2016/02/02/465268206/coin-toss-fact-check-no-coin-flips-did-not-win-iowa-for-hillary-clinton?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=politics&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews



Interesting take.
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Thank you. They split the coin tosses -- and these involved county delegates, pnwmom Feb 2016 #1
Truth is freedom indeed GusBob Feb 2016 #2
Is this the same Iowa Democratic Party that doesn't know where some TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #3
100% of Caucus results were reported earlier yesterday...before your comment. brooklynite Feb 2016 #28
What was the delay? TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #33
This has been the way Iowa has tallied votes since the 70s. brooklynite Feb 2016 #34
No, there were problems reported this time around. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #35
The Republicans have a simpler process... brooklynite Feb 2016 #36
They didn't seem to have a handle on the process. They used an app that some TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #37
There was a Sanders and Clinton Precinct Captain in each location brooklynite Feb 2016 #39
Well, I think he's trying to find out what happened. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #40
except that the coin tosses were irrelevant... brooklynite Feb 2016 #41
I am skeptical. I read Skinner's post, and I watched one of the videos TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #42
So says.... George II Feb 2016 #4
So NPR is now corporatist, too, because it clarified the coin toss meme? Nitram Feb 2016 #29
It was sarcasm. George II Feb 2016 #30
And excellent sarcasm it was, George. Pardon my being slow on the uptake. Nitram Feb 2016 #31
Skinner: About those coin flips... onehandle Feb 2016 #5
The coin toss meme is all BS supporters have left to hold on to. tarheelsunc Feb 2016 #6
Let's not pretend that it only applies to one group rpannier Feb 2016 #8
Now some of them are yelling about murielm99 Feb 2016 #14
Certainly the process and the results can be audited. nt silvershadow Feb 2016 #21
Wrong. And you do realize your corporate candidate ony won by a fraction of a percent right? trillion Feb 2016 #16
Goldman Sachs - We dems ought to keep track of them trillion Feb 2016 #17
apparently calling attention to hillary's wall street ties is not popular with some....jury results restorefreedom Feb 2016 #38
I didn't know any of them were right wing sources, I just posted what google came up first with. trillion Feb 2016 #43
don't worry about it. like i said in my jury comment, restorefreedom Feb 2016 #53
You use Breitbart and Redstate to make your point? George II Feb 2016 #45
And do you realize it doesn't matter who "won" here except for bragging rights Midnight Writer Feb 2016 #18
No, Hillary got over 300 delegates and Bernie got something like 21. trillion Feb 2016 #44
Clinton got 300 delegates in the caucuses on Monday? WOW! George II Feb 2016 #46
Clinto got 370 delegates. Sanders got 34. trillion Feb 2016 #48
Not in Iowa. George II Feb 2016 #49
Ah, you are right. I was really tired yesterday after saying up Caucus night nearly all night and trillion Feb 2016 #50
If Iowa's weird caucus rules give you heartburn, the super delegate system will floor you Midnight Writer Feb 2016 #55
1. The average of polls had Hillary up by 4% demwing Feb 2016 #23
Where did you see the popular vote counts? George II Feb 2016 #47
The sad thing is that Bernie supporters never cease trying to find reasons to accuse... Nitram Feb 2016 #32
Kick rpannier Feb 2016 #7
Many people here have no idea how our elections or government really work pandr32 Feb 2016 #9
The coin tosses are irrelevant ham_actor Feb 2016 #10
Good post and welcome to DU! n/t femmedem Feb 2016 #27
I agree---Bernie won based on his great showing in IA wordpix Feb 2016 #51
Welcome to the Democratic Underground ham_actor!! happynewyear Feb 2016 #52
a check fact report from npr? hopemountain Feb 2016 #11
This story confuses more than it clarifies d_legendary1 Feb 2016 #12
Except Hillary kept calling "HEADS" James48 Feb 2016 #13
What happened on the coin tosses Sanders won, was ut the same coin? Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #26
I love the responses to this. Man, I wish Bernie won IA. truthisfreedom Feb 2016 #15
i'm not surprised, but disappointed that the anti-Hillary crowd continues to make up lies and MariaThinks Feb 2016 #19
Forget trying to reason with these people leftynyc Feb 2016 #20
History will forever record that Hillary won the 2016 Iowa caucus GreydeeThos Feb 2016 #22
Just as history records that George W Bush won FL in 2000 demwing Feb 2016 #24
But that's not how propaganda works liberal N proud Feb 2016 #25
Here's the problem Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #54
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