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In the discussion thread: New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks [View all]

Thu May 31, 2012, 10:39 AM

otohara (21,602 posts)

27. Let's Do Nothing Okay?

What's dumb is assuming people will buy two drinks vs. one.

As a parent, I welcome this decision. Every attempt to educate, and lessen the consumption of these toxic sugary drinks should be welcomed and not pooh poohed as a failure before it's even implemented.

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120 replies	Author	Time	Post
New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks [View all]	alp227	May 2012	OP
I am with both of those solutions.....	PDJane	May 2012	#1
You might be with them but the question is are the courts?	cstanleytech	May 2012	#3
Obviously, I didn't express myself clearly enough.	PDJane	May 2012	#52
OMG! I agree with all that, but think of the JOBS lost by doing so...	freshwest	May 2012	#57
Bike lanes and free physical fitness options have increased in NYC	jumptheshadow	Jun 2012	#97
I hate to use the term nanny state.	MrSlayer	May 2012	#2
Right, what happens when the public confuses correlation with causation	evirus	May 2012	#19
Buy your Jolt in New Jersey...	jumptheshadow	Jun 2012	#107
It's because we refuse to pay for health education.	sofa king	Jun 2012	#111
Craziness	pmorlan1	Jun 2012	#116
You're not going to stop obesity by baby sitting people,	Ninjaneer	May 2012	#4
Is it really about helping people? Seriously?	Safetykitten	May 2012	#5
The label Control Freak	Riftaxe	May 2012	#6
So ... what's to stop people from buying TWO 16oz bottles of soda?	BattyDem	May 2012	#7
that would increase the tax income on soft drinks	may3rd	May 2012	#17
So once again ...	BattyDem	May 2012	#44
Pretty much.... the government is here to help	may3rd	Jun 2012	#98
Obesity ?	dipsydoodle	May 2012	#8
In what world is 16 ounces a medium coffee?! That's insane!!	harmonicon	May 2012	#9
At Starbucks a medium is 16 ounces, large is 20 ounces	oberliner	May 2012	#10
Since when? (I'm seriously asking)	harmonicon	May 2012	#12
I think its always been 12, 16, 20	oberliner	May 2012	#14
Starbucks isn't actually coffee.	boppers	Jun 2012	#92
Nanny state nonsense	leftynyc	May 2012	#11
Agreed	oberliner	May 2012	#15
LOL - you know what would cure	leftynyc	May 2012	#20
Point taken	oberliner	May 2012	#39
I guess you could make a public health argument here. Would you be against banning	CTyankee	May 2012	#28
I'm not sure that higher taxes on sodas would work.	randome	May 2012	#29
All the better. Pretty high is good. More tax revenue for the state and for those of us who	CTyankee	May 2012	#36
There are very few things that wont kill	leftynyc	May 2012	#35
but here's the thing about your argument: it can be argued that we are all forced to pay higher	CTyankee	May 2012	#38
It's not like people don't know	leftynyc	May 2012	#47
We have very high taxes on alcohol in CT. It doesn't bother me as a wine drinker.	CTyankee	May 2012	#48
Just as I wont drive	leftynyc	May 2012	#50
I like the welcome sign	may3rd	Jun 2012	#99
On the bike helmets requirement...	jumptheshadow	Jun 2012	#109
I think requiring smaller sizes (at comparable prices per ounce/ml) is a better way to go	Blasphemer	May 2012	#13
So you ask for less ice. Problem solved.	randome	May 2012	#16
“Tip if you want to lose weight: don’t eat food that comes in a bucket”	Nihil	May 2012	#18
orr is handed to your through your car window	may3rd	May 2012	#21
Sounds like a mean, old Socialist or communist!	dmosh42	May 2012	#22
Good. nt	onehandle	May 2012	#23
LOL! Really stupid -	lynne	May 2012	#24
People will be less likely to buy 2 drinks.	randome	May 2012	#25
Let's Do Nothing Okay?	otohara	May 2012	#27
We could mandate every unhealthy food item list all the horrible things it may do to you	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#32
The taxes and public service commercials have greatly reduced the incidence of smoking.	randome	May 2012	#33
Hollywood turning on it reduced the incidence of smoking	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#34
I think Hollywood simply followed the tide of societal opinion.	randome	May 2012	#42
People will buy two just to prove a point -	lynne	May 2012	#69
Aha! We've accounted for that	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#31
I'm really not sure if this is going to work. What I saw work in my lifetime was increasing the	CTyankee	May 2012	#26
Let's hope no one figures out they have two hands	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#30
It's ok ...	Nihil	May 2012	#37
Can they ban those stupid big sunglasses women keep wearing..	snooper2	May 2012	#40
In NYC where there are not very many obese people. Why bother?	Quantess	May 2012	#41
Half of NYers are overweight or obese, according to the article (nt)	jumptheshadow	Jun 2012	#96
Okay, but NYC residents are relatively slim compared to some places in the US.	Quantess	Jun 2012	#101
I think NY's innovations will impact other areas	jumptheshadow	Jun 2012	#103
Very well put, jump! I hadn't teased this thing out like you have brilliantly done here.	CTyankee	Jun 2012	#106
Thank you	jumptheshadow	Jun 2012	#110
Sorry, I am pro choice.	Pat Riot	May 2012	#43
I'm pro-choice but I don't see the analogy...	CTyankee	May 2012	#45
telling people what to do with their bodies	Pat Riot	May 2012	#46
I understand your underlying argument, but excessive sugar is a detriment to public health.	CTyankee	May 2012	#51
First, they're not toxic.	jeff47	May 2012	#55
I put toxic in a larger context. It is part of an overall problem and that is that overconsumption	CTyankee	May 2012	#56
They aren't getting obese on sugared drinks either.	jeff47	May 2012	#58
If we didn't have such a corrupt political system, unwilling to do what should be done, I would	CTyankee	May 2012	#62
No, actually he is saying this plan will fix it.	jeff47	May 2012	#63
I don't see that quote as you do. "doing something" is not solving, magically or otherwise.	CTyankee	May 2012	#64
So you're saying he's not qualified to be mayor, then? (nt)	jeff47	May 2012	#65
Well, Jeff, I'm just sayin' that IMHO this guy is a really smart, tough guy and he's made	CTyankee	May 2012	#66
We've already played this out before	jeff47	Jun 2012	#73
Hey, Jeff you are welcome to try to work with all the parties involved in the NYC schools!	CTyankee	Jun 2012	#87
You DO see people getting obese on fruit juice.	Pat Riot	Jun 2012	#76
I've worked in public schools	HockeyMom	Jun 2012	#79
Um, yeah, that's fucked up.	randome	Jun 2012	#80
I've gotten into arguments over this	HockeyMom	Jun 2012	#84
+1	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#59
Bloomberg is a fool...Won't help a bit..	Stuart G	May 2012	#49
useless, stupid law...	Scout	May 2012	#53
Slippery Slope	RitchieRich	May 2012	#54
Just one more law and we'll finally be free!	4th law of robotics	May 2012	#60
Bloomberg should learn from the Prohibition Laws	HockeyMom	May 2012	#67
I have no doubt in a year or so once this has been shown to be a failure	4th law of robotics	Jun 2012	#71
perfectly said n/t	Psephos	Jun 2012	#83
You can have as many ounces of sugar free cancer causing chemical concoctions you like	CBGLuthier	May 2012	#61
Merely being bad for you is not a high enough bar for banning something	SpartanDem	May 2012	#68
Sorry Bloomberg this is not consitutional	Wabbajack_	Jun 2012	#70
I went to McD's for some students & asked for a small ice tea for myself ---it came quart size	wordpix	Jun 2012	#72
Some of the posts on this thread are eerily familiar.	randome	Jun 2012	#74
Light bulbs and junk food are NOT comparable.	alp227	Jun 2012	#75
In theory, I agree that educational efforts would be a good idea.	randome	Jun 2012	#77
People will just buy more of the smaller ones.	JNelson6563	Jun 2012	#78
Unlimited Re-Fills	HockeyMom	Jun 2012	#81
I don't think the proposal would be expected to get everyone to do the same thing every day.	randome	Jun 2012	#82
No, unlimited refills aren't banned	jumptheshadow	Jun 2012	#108
That is why I ask for a Kiddie Size Drink,	HockeyMom	Jun 2012	#115
I'd be for warning labels. But I don't think we should be infringing on personal liberties.	harun	Jun 2012	#85
I agree there	HockeyMom	Jun 2012	#86
The artificial sweeteners are awful and a real problem as they get people used to super sweet	CTyankee	Jun 2012	#88
Let's just ban	christx30	Jun 2012	#89
You are right. Banning sugary drinks will destroy civil liberties!	CTyankee	Jun 2012	#90
But where does it end?	christx30	Jun 2012	#91
Oh, dear, I am sorry christx30! I was being facetious and trying to lighten up, that's all.	CTyankee	Jun 2012	#93
I didn't take it as a personal insult.	christx30	Jun 2012	#104
well, Bloomberg is really just banning the oversized servings of soda. You will still be able to	CTyankee	Jun 2012	#105
Not only is it unconstitutional...	Ter	Jun 2012	#94
You must obey the law . They will be watching...	may3rd	Jun 2012	#100
I like what Bloomberg is doing in this area...	jumptheshadow	Jun 2012	#95
Fruit juices should be banned, too.	Nevernose	Jun 2012	#102
Ummm....	ti66er8pooh	Jun 2012	#112
The Thirst Mutilator!	progressoid	Jun 2012	#120
A Large, should not equal a gallon...	and-justice-for-all	Jun 2012	#113
Diet soda's too?	Greybnk48	Jun 2012	#114
Genious!	Incitatus	Jun 2012	#117
Another useless, crazy distraction.	southerncrone	Jun 2012	#118
"The ban would not extend to beverages sold in grocery or convenience stores."	mikeytherat	Jun 2012	#119

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