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In the discussion thread: Report: Obama Personally Oversees Al-Qaeda ‘Kill List’ [View all]

Tue May 29, 2012, 08:18 PM

bhikkhu (7,752 posts)

51. No, its not one or the other

but I don't know what I would do better in the last three years if the whole mess was my responsibility. I'd probably say drones are more effective than bombs, and much safer than boots on the ground. But then I'd also have to admit that it looks like the best we can do with them is not nearly good enough to make for a "clean" war (if there is such a thing), and certainly doesn't win any hearts and minds anywhere.

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Report: Obama Personally Oversees Al-Qaeda ‘Kill List’ [View all]	Hissyspit	May 2012	OP
I don't know, people.	mahatmakanejeeves	May 2012	#1
This story is viral today. n/t	EFerrari	May 2012	#2
This comment from William Daley in the article is very odd...	KoKo	May 2012	#3
“At what point are you just filling the bucket with numbers?”	frylock	May 2012	#16
Well, actually, in a drone attack, the driver, the car,	dixiegrrrrl	May 2012	#20
An war al-Alack	may3rd	May 2012	#49
Also made the list.......	DeSwiss	May 2012	#23
I wonder if Zuckerburg is on the kill list	may3rd	May 2012	#50
The facebook guy? Mark?	boppers	May 2012	#63
Well 'duh'! He IS the Commander in Chief (CIC)!	NoMittens	May 2012	#4
I've been assuming he approves the list	Enrique	May 2012	#7
It's hard to dismiss this as a RW Attack...this part from the Article:	KoKo	May 2012	#29
"A colleague" is not an identifiable person...	Ohio Joe	May 2012	#40
"shunned", "metastasizing", "lawyering", "ferocious"....	boppers	May 2012	#43
He's not the Don-in-Chief.	rug	May 2012	#52
No, the news is that there is a Presidential Kill List at all.	Occulus	May 2012	#56
Where there's a war, there's a list	bhikkhu	May 2012	#59
America is at war? When did Congress declare war?	Neue Regel	May 2012	#80
There's always been one, especially during war time.	boppers	May 2012	#65
there was nothing about a kill list on the Nobel Peace Prize nomination form n/t...	IamK	May 2012	#5
Well said.	dixiegrrrrl	May 2012	#19
K&R. nt	OnyxCollie	May 2012	#6
I don't like that there's a kill list to begin with	Lawlbringer	May 2012	#8
According to to an NPR newsbroadcast on this earlier today...	Demoiselle	May 2012	#34
That was mentioned on the radio. The idea of micro managing individuals	may3rd	May 2012	#47
...as opposed to turning a blind eye	bhikkhu	May 2012	#9
Don't ever trust a politician	rusty fender	May 2012	#10
I always consider the older alternative to drones in war	bhikkhu	May 2012	#11
Really? It's one or the other?	Hissyspit	May 2012	#14
No, its not one or the other	bhikkhu	May 2012	#51
dunno about that	may3rd	May 2012	#48
If you don't trust any of them, then what do you propose we do?	treestar	May 2012	#17
Congratulations on your dawning enlightenment!	whatchamacallit	May 2012	#18
Should we trust	mollerjay	May 2012	#27
You can ALWAYS count on Obama!	Poll_Blind	May 2012	#12
this is bad how?	scheming daemons	May 2012	#13
AND BREAKING NEWS	Iliyah	May 2012	#15
At least it's not Rmoney who oversees it...	Amonester	May 2012	#21
Silly point of view.	rayofreason	May 2012	#25
+1000000	FiveGoodMen	May 2012	#35
Yeah because it matters to the dead who ordered them killed without trial. n/t	EFerrari	May 2012	#55
As many said in this thread, that list is nothing new...	Amonester	May 2012	#70
In your zeal to defend the indefensible, you are overlooking the facts.	EFerrari	May 2012	#73
Why isn't there anyone challenging the legality of this kill list?	The Northerner	May 2012	#22
Everyone's afraid. n/t	DeSwiss	May 2012	#24
Could find yourself on the list. n/t	rayofreason	May 2012	#26
Sick of the unfair attackeson Obama	mollerjay	May 2012	#28
How is it unfair?	morningfog	May 2012	#31
Hopefully Obama or his campaign will respond properly to this NYT article	KoKo	May 2012	#32
Got a problem with the ''Due Process'' clause in the Bill of Rights, have you? :-/ n/t	DeSwiss	May 2012	#33
Due process, in this case, means:	boppers	May 2012	#45
No it doesn't, that's bs.	EFerrari	May 2012	#54
If you're old enough to fire a weapon, you're old enough to be a target.	boppers	May 2012	#62
Comparing this to WWII	U4ikLefty	May 2012	#64
Lets see:	boppers	May 2012	#66
You really outdid yourself this time.	Ash_F	May 2012	#69
Exactly.	boppers	May 2012	#77
Name me the top ten strikes on the US, ranked by fatalities.	boppers	May 2012	#79
And you think you know that, why?	EFerrari	May 2012	#72
Well, people told you he was killed, why did you believe that?	boppers	May 2012	#78
and keeping in mind, congress did legally authorize military force against Al Qaeda	bhikkhu	May 2012	#57
I don't really see it as a war but a law enforcement issue	Ash_F	May 2012	#71
I do remember that argument	bhikkhu	May 2012	#75
Unbelievable!	pmorlan1	May 2012	#68
I grew up with this.	boppers	May 2012	#76
You've been here four days. n/t	EFerrari	May 2012	#37
now go run tell mommy	frylock	May 2012	#42
He's dead, Jim. n/t	EFerrari	May 2012	#44
The only people who have standing are assassinated when they are found.	morningfog	May 2012	#30
Nope--the DOJ admitted that custody would pre-empt any lethal force.....	msanthrope	May 2012	#39
ACLU filed and abandoned one case last year. Filed another one in February:	EFerrari	May 2012	#36
Because those who have standing to do so are terrorists who do not participate in a	msanthrope	May 2012	#38
oppose it and your on it... Barack is like Tony Soprano n/t	IamK	May 2012	#41
This is news, how?	boppers	May 2012	#46
Wrong.	EFerrari	May 2012	#53
I probably shrugged upon hearing about Bush/Cheney doing it, too.	boppers	May 2012	#61
Good!	tabasco	May 2012	#58
They've been reined in.	boppers	May 2012	#67
It's not awfully top secret if the French are reporting it	Rosa Luxemburg	May 2012	#60
U.S. military trainers trickle back into Pakistan "Overseer in chief has boots on the ground	may3rd	May 2012	#74

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