Latest Breaking News

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)

33. No, he was not the neighborhood watch guy, he just said that he was

Tue May 22, 2012, 11:15 PM

May 2012

all relevant neighborhood groups pointed out early on that he merely claimed that he was, and in fact was in no way attached to any of them.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

72 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Several George Zimmerman witnesses change their accounts [View all] hue May 2012 OP

The police really fucked up on this one lunatica May 2012 #1

I'd have trouble convicting on evidence this screwed up Recursion May 2012 #2

Fucked up? KamaAina May 2012 #3

the police didn't fuck up at all naaman fletcher May 2012 #23

So why did witnesses get questioned weeks later instead of right away? lunatica May 2012 #44

From the article naaman fletcher May 2012 #61

Eyewtiness testimony is notoriously unreliable naaman fletcher May 2012 #4

That 'blood on the head' evidence is highly suspect Boabab May 2012 #7

I disagree naaman fletcher May 2012 #8

How you beat that... bl968 May 2012 #9

easy naaman fletcher May 2012 #11

No. If he decided to kill Martin, it would have been 1st degree murder. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #15

I'm sorry naaman fletcher May 2012 #16

First degree murder is premeditated starroute May 2012 #24

for that naaman fletcher May 2012 #26

the testimony of the girlfriend establishes SemperEadem May 2012 #48

Does it? naaman fletcher May 2012 #49

yes... what reason would she have had to lie? SemperEadem May 2012 #51

I'm not saying she was lying naaman fletcher May 2012 #53

then educate yourself SemperEadem May 2012 #63

Hearing an altercation is not the same as knowing who started it Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #68

nice try. SemperEadem May 2012 #71

Not being able to counter a point -- a legitmate point -- and name-calling won't hold up in court Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #72

So I'm lying... SemperEadem May 2012 #64

In the real world, you don't get to make up your own definitions for the law. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #27

yeah i was wrong, naaman fletcher May 2012 #28

Premeditated? brush May 2012 #40

No, he was not the neighborhood watch guy, he just said that he was Dragonfli May 2012 #33

blood on the back of his head is meaningless SemperEadem May 2012 #47

The initial "blood on the back of the head" are were taken by a phone that time 24601 May 2012 #52

What's your definition of long after? naaman fletcher May 2012 #65

Zimmerman MIGHT be, based on FLORIDA's Definition of Murder happyslug May 2012 #56

Carrying a loaded weapon into a planned illegal confrontation + death in said confrontation = kestrel91316 May 2012 #10

I disagree naaman fletcher May 2012 #13

"Intent" has nothing to do with depraved indifference Boabab May 2012 #20

He wasn't depraved indifferent naaman fletcher May 2012 #21

He was never part of any neighborhood watch! Everyone knows that but FOX news by now. jeez. /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #34

Intent brush May 2012 #41

I was prepared to discount every one of your assertions .... marble falls May 2012 #54

He won't have any assets naaman fletcher May 2012 #62

My thought exactly. There's going to be an incomplete and unsatisfying justice here in the end.... marble falls May 2012 #66

If I'm not mistaken (and that's a big "if") Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #69

I hope the jury goes for justice and is instructed in alterante charges if 2nd .... marble falls May 2012 #70

There should have NEVER been a confrontation. He stalked a kid merely because of skin color. lookingfortruth May 2012 #12

sorry, you don't know the law naaman fletcher May 2012 #14

The dispatcher suggested that he not follow the suspect. Selatius May 2012 #46

Right naaman fletcher May 2012 #50

Pre-formed intent to kill isn't required for second-degree murder. TheWraith May 2012 #25

intent to kill is murder in first degree magical thyme May 2012 #31

Wanna-be cop dickhead brush May 2012 #39

You're assuming that Zimmerman would have done the same thing without a gun lunatica May 2012 #45

Actually... Chan790 May 2012 #59

I doubt any of it would have happened had Zimmerman been unarmed. Starboard Tack May 2012 #67

I've seen that picture. Finally found info on when it was supposed to have been taken. uppityperson May 2012 #17

And the worst part about that is, we execute folks based on eye witness testimony in their convictio lonestarnot May 2012 #35

I have to agree with you about the prosecutor overcharging. JoeyT May 2012 #43

Not necessarily as it relates to 2nd degree murder. Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #57

Eyewitness testimonry is unreliable but is convincing to juries. byeya May 2012 #60

More FL law enforcement efficiency on display Boabab May 2012 #5

purposely fucked up fascisthunter May 2012 #6

Well, that really clears things up slackmaster May 2012 #18

if they can change their stories grok May 2012 #19

reading the story in the article naaman fletcher May 2012 #22

No aquittal brush May 2012 #42

Zimmermania should have been charged with voluntary manslaughter ... bayareaboy May 2012 #29

MURDER suspect zimmerman to be arraigned on May 29, 2012 solarman350 May 2012 #30

Some people appear to have forgotten the charge is murder, if only in the second degree. freshwest May 2012 #32

Many also appear to believe the FOX news fantasy that he was a member of some neighborhood watch Dragonfli May 2012 #36

There's a thread about him harassing his co-workers at another job. I answered to the person who I freshwest May 2012 #37

The Prosecutor's default/fallback conviction goal for this case is Manslaughter solarman350 May 2012 #38

It would have to be voluntary, unless Zimmerman somehow claims his gun accidently went off. Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #58

Here is Florida's Murder Statute happyslug May 2012 #55