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newthinking

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Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:04 AM Nov 2015

Religious children are meaner than their secular counterparts, study finds [View all]

Source: The Guardian

Religious belief appears to have negative influence on children’s altruism and judgments of others’ actions even as parents see them as ‘more empathetic’

Children from religious families are less kind and more punitive than those from non-religious households, according to a new study.

Academics from seven universities across the world studied Christian, Muslim and non-religious children to test the relationship between religion and morality.

They found that religious belief is a negative influence on children’s altruism.

“Overall, our findings ... contradict the commonsense and popular assumption that children from religious households are more altruistic and kind towards others,” said the authors of The Negative Association Between Religiousness and Children’s Altruism Across the World, published this week in Current Biology.

“More generally, they call into question whether religion is vital for moral development, supporting the idea that secularisation of moral discourse will not reduce human kindness – in fact, it will do just the opposite.”

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/06/religious-children-less-altruistic-secular-kids-study

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"Meaner" is as good a word as any. nt GoneFishin Nov 2015 #1
I thought so too. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #30
In essence, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #2
Oh to folks like them too. After all, everyone is a 'sinner'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #8
Indoctrination is not a healthy thing! Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #53
Likewise the party of the religious right is meaner than the more secular party (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2015 #3
Maybe we need studies to get this to make headlines. (sarcasm). Nt JudyM Nov 2015 #7
They'd just defund them or make then illegal Moliere Nov 2015 #21
My first thought was perhaps those who choose to be religious could be more likely Chemisse Nov 2015 #4
It's a mind screw mdbl Nov 2015 #5
Good point. Chemisse Nov 2015 #6
Faith thru fear of punishment.Authoritarian & condescending rightousness bjobotts Nov 2015 #75
"...combined with harsh consequences (spankings, hell)." Cal Carpenter Nov 2015 #63
Definitely more judgmental & also arrogant and condescending nt ailsagirl Nov 2015 #67
I learned THAT in grade school Demeter Nov 2015 #9
Oh, you were one of THOSE... (kidding) LiberalElite Nov 2015 #16
It makes sense Fairgo Nov 2015 #10
A Very Thoughtful Insight--thank you! Demeter Nov 2015 #19
Religion teaches whathehell Nov 2015 #20
It really depends which church you go to. Remember that church that protested the homeless shelter trillion Nov 2015 #80
Yes! Right to the point. maddiemom Nov 2015 #28
Yes. In a nutshell. Chemisse Nov 2015 #73
It makes perfect sense Perseus Nov 2015 #11
Karl Marx was NOT condemning religion as a drug that puts you in a stupor fasttense Nov 2015 #33
Except that opium addiction has been around much longer than Marx and even influenced geopolitics Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #45
Of course opium addiction was around fasttense Nov 2015 #56
My understanding from reading information Perseus Nov 2015 #59
There are many myths about Marx fasttense Nov 2015 #62
Yep, religion is just a tool of the PTB to divide and conquer. I remember my valerief Nov 2015 #50
My mom grew up Catholic daleo Nov 2015 #68
It was crazier than thinking a strange man broke into your house once a year. valerief Nov 2015 #72
LOL. Lionel Mandrake Nov 2015 #88
sad but seems to have a high degree of correlation with my experiences dembotoz Nov 2015 #12
I learned this when I became a UU 11 years ago JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #13
Love this post. Kids are great. Thanks for the smile! Demit Nov 2015 #18
When you give kids the room to question mountain grammy Nov 2015 #37
I would have gotten the same soap JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #55
Great story! Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #86
Reminds me madokie Nov 2015 #14
My experience has been that ultra-religious upbringing also leads to assholery as adults Major Nikon Nov 2015 #15
Well, duh... FailureToCommunicate Nov 2015 #17
I think the same can be said for organized politics. tavernier Nov 2015 #22
Funny, I think that's true of most organized groups with a hierarchy. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #89
I still canvas and hold up signs tavernier Nov 2015 #90
I remember as a child in school with my friends polly7 Nov 2015 #23
That is quite a story, polly7. Thanks for sharing that. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #26
I'm actually crying a bit thinking of it here ... polly7 Nov 2015 #29
I also grew up in a very small community so I witnessed similar events. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #31
I'm sorry you witnessed it too. I'm kind of amazed it still affects me so much, probably mostly polly7 Nov 2015 #35
This is why the attitude I see on Fox "News" when they promote intolerance and bullying Enthusiast Nov 2015 #54
I would enjoy reading your post, but the bug is distracting. olegramps Nov 2015 #39
Sorry, but I like the bug. It's for LOonix, a great poster missed by many people. polly7 Nov 2015 #41
LOonix aside, I hate the bug and to be honest with you it is so annoying to my old eyes that I have Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #47
Well, sorry about that. polly7 Nov 2015 #48
That brings back a memory or two.. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #42
That's terrible. polly7 Nov 2015 #44
It is natural for children raised in a strict religious tradition to be less tolerant of Enthusiast Nov 2015 #24
Our Freedom of religion & the freedom, the right to place a Church anywhere (tax free) is IMO, Sunlei Nov 2015 #32
Neil DeGrasse Tyson on "intelligent design" Cyrano Nov 2015 #25
Ooohhh, that is too funny... mantis49 Nov 2015 #38
He was great on Larry!!! nt valerief Nov 2015 #52
Wait, ZombieHorde Nov 2015 #91
yes, 'religious' kids especially a pack' can be Lord of the flies or romeny scissorhands cruel Sunlei Nov 2015 #27
As is often the case with research in the social sciences, the proxies may be poor struggle4progress Nov 2015 #34
This would not be true of the very liberal, socially-active Protestant denomination... DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 #36
IMO, Spot On! NonMetro Nov 2015 #61
Thank you, NonMetro! DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 #65
Your point about the "broad brush", though, is something people need to think about NonMetro Nov 2015 #87
Regardless of the church you come from... SharpProgress Nov 2015 #83
I wonder if any of the attitude can be traced to the whole TlalocW Nov 2015 #40
I've never heard that it's not important to make right with people one wrongs. What faith teaches that? DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 #43
Their parents are meaner, too. nt valerief Nov 2015 #46
Religion is tribal by definition.... paleotn Nov 2015 #49
Oh ya! SoapBox Nov 2015 #51
Religious children and people in general are meaner and less moral PufPuf23 Nov 2015 #57
They could have just called me. snort Nov 2015 #58
The Mormons in my family are the worst people I've ever met. trillion Nov 2015 #78
I'm sorry to say this seems true to me, based on an example in my own family. Aristus Nov 2015 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Nov 2015 #69
especially those damn Methodists MisterP Nov 2015 #64
This comes as no surprise to anyone who survived childhood daleo Nov 2015 #66
First question: Why was this published in a Biology journal? bananas Nov 2015 #70
Wow, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! Initech Nov 2015 #71
I agree kimbutgar Nov 2015 #74
Especially the fundy ones. trillion Nov 2015 #76
I totally believe the results of this study. Try being WestSeattle2 Nov 2015 #77
Interesting choice of words here. The word 'mean' in the context it is used in the PatrickforO Nov 2015 #79
Belief in a hell makes you mean. Half-Century Man Nov 2015 #81
Anyone who grew up non-religious.... SharpProgress Nov 2015 #82
And as they grow up, they become hateful, bitter old coots who vote Republican while silvershadow Nov 2015 #84
The ultimate authority figure is the invisible judge who sees all.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #85
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