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In the discussion thread: Trayvon Martin killed by single gunshot fired from 'intermediate range,' autopsy shows [View all]

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Wed May 16, 2012, 08:08 PM

MrSlayer (21,361 posts)

7. Intermediate range.

In intermediate-range wounds, the muzzle is held away from the skin but close enough that it still produces powder tattooing. This type of wound is also characterized by numerous reddish-brown to orange-red lesions around the entrance to the wound.

http://www.relentlessdefense.com/forensics/gunshot-wounds/

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125 replies	Author	Time	Post
Trayvon Martin killed by single gunshot fired from 'intermediate range,' autopsy shows [View all]	shawn703	May 2012	OP
how far is that?	warrior1	May 2012	#1
from a google search on forensic & intermediate range	HereSince1628	May 2012	#4
1 centimeter to four feet	obamanut2012	May 2012	#8
That's a pretty big spread	backtomn	May 2012	#22
I know!	obamanut2012	May 2012	#26
4 feet is still pretty damned close	tech_smythe	May 2012	#41
In this case	bec	May 2012	#54
I just googled it too...got something different	Demoiselle	May 2012	#71
Gawd -- I got mine from a forensics site, too	obamanut2012	May 2012	#72
you betcha.	robinlynne	May 2012	#76
1 cm seems awfully small to classify as "intermediate."	magical thyme	May 2012	#85
That's what she said	alcibiades_mystery	May 2012	#87
Here is a good read	NoGOPZone	May 2012	#27
Great PDF...	Cave_Johnson	May 2012	#29
1" to 18" according to a retired NYC coroner	magical thyme	May 2012	#89
a likely broken nose?	2pooped2pop	May 2012	#2
maybe, maybe not	Gman	May 2012	#5
Yeah but if you kill someone and rely on self-defense, you take a damn x-ray to prove	Solomon	May 2012	#108
Usually it is done, but it is not usually necessary	elias7	May 2012	#34
This may be assault, and possibly justification for self-defense with a deadly weapon.	Atypical Liberal	May 2012	#42
It would be, except that Zimmerman will have to explain why he left the area around	JDPriestly	May 2012	#45
ONLY if he had not been stalking Trayvon.	jwirr	May 2012	#64
One man's stalking is another man's investigating.	Atypical Liberal	May 2012	#109
Yes and not all have the authority to investigate. Neighborhood Watch does not make you an	jwirr	May 2012	#110
He was not, IS not, and never will be a part of any official Neighborhood watch. nt	LaydeeBug	May 2012	#112
I am aware of that and that makes my statement even truer.	jwirr	May 2012	#114
Look, I'm waiting for the courts to settle all the evidence.	Atypical Liberal	May 2012	#115
I guess I live in a different world than you do. I would not dream of confronting a stranger just	jwirr	May 2012	#117
I confronted a black man who walked into my workplace about an hour ago	slackmaster	May 2012	#118
That is not confronting - that is greeting. GZ chased Trayvon - that is confronting. In my	jwirr	May 2012	#119
Sun Tsu said, in The Art of War, "Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance...	slackmaster	May 2012	#120
Agreed.	jwirr	May 2012	#121
And that is the key to this situation.	Atypical Liberal	May 2012	#123
Not everone can or is expected to rise to the occasion.	Atypical Liberal	May 2012	#122
I live in a low crime area and many people in this community take walks around the community for	jwirr	May 2012	#124
intermediate range	seasons101	May 2012	#74
Two black eyes, a likely broken nose -- and abrasions on his forehead.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#50
not true	BigD_95	May 2012	#90
we know that Martin was NOT a problem kid	magical thyme	May 2012	#94
I don't think you can follow someone who is where he lawfully is entitled to be	JDPriestly	May 2012	#101
even if they x-ray	magical thyme	May 2012	#91
Nope	quakerboy	May 2012	#116
This Family Physician like Joe Oliver ?	JI7	May 2012	#3
a foot? five feet? ten feet??	Blue_Tires	May 2012	#6
Well within what layfolk would call "point blank range." (nt)	Posteritatis	May 2012	#14
intermediate is 1" - 18" per former NYC coroner nt	magical thyme	May 2012	#96
Intermediate range.	MrSlayer	May 2012	#7
I would imagine that the actual distance would depend on how much powder etc is there. I hope	jwirr	May 2012	#65
Interesting Zimmerman's are from a personal physican	obamanut2012	May 2012	#9
Exactly. BS.	peacebird	May 2012	#11
if it is true he will definitely have taken photos!	robinlynne	May 2012	#77
His personal physicians report a day later says... Wtf? Georgie got his dad to smack him perhaps,	peacebird	May 2012	#10
Or he had nothing at all	obamanut2012	May 2012	#12
Not always true.	AtheistCrusader	May 2012	#49
Martin only had a 1/4 inch abrasion on his finger?	WHEN CRABS ROAR	May 2012	#13
+1	Baitball Blogger	May 2012	#15
One. One single abrasion on his left ring finger.	Bolo Boffin	May 2012	#16
I get abrasions that size on my fingers all the time (From work)	ck4829	May 2012	#18
That "Family Dr." Is in deep Shit....	Grassy Knoll	May 2012	#21
That Abrasion Could Have Been The Result	DallasNE	May 2012	#28
He must've hit zimmy with the package of skittles, right?	uppityperson	May 2012	#31
Well ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2012	#35
That was my first thought too	zeemike	May 2012	#69
you're assuming the report of those injuries is true...	progressivebydesign	May 2012	#78
I'd love to see someone do a graphic of that.	Nine	May 2012	#38
The abrasion could have come when Trayvon Martin fell.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#46
Yes, Martin belonged to a secret Ninja society	FogerRox	May 2012	#70
CBS News reported tonight that they were "only inches apart" when Zimmerman fired his weapon.	Major Hogwash	May 2012	#17
"You shot me" makes more sense than "you got me."	Bolo Boffin	May 2012	#19
That does make more sense.	Major Hogwash	May 2012	#23
"all unsubstantiated rumors" - right, absolutely. n/t	Bolo Boffin	May 2012	#24
Earlier, I heard that Zimmerman was standing, straddling Trayvon Martin.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#47
How would the autopsy and the police report know what a dead man said?	Orangepeel	May 2012	#59
I do not buy the "lying on his back with Trayvon staddling him". When Trayvon was shot did he bleed?	jwirr	May 2012	#66
Gunshot wounds do not fountain blood like in movies.	PavePusher	May 2012	#82
except this is a shot in the left ventricle	magical thyme	May 2012	#97
True, but...	PavePusher	May 2012	#102
I'm aware of the anatomy of the heart	magical thyme	May 2012	#104
Good discussion, and	texshelters	May 2012	#20
Zimmerman had every right to follow Martin	BigD_95	May 2012	#92
Not necessarily	magical thyme	May 2012	#98
no he fucking did not	fascisthunter	May 2012	#105
Having the right doesn't make it right	texshelters	May 2012	#111
This message was self-deleted by its author	texshelters	Jun 2012	#125
Gee, Zimmerman said Martin was reaching for his gun, but...	CreekDog	May 2012	#25
intermediate range	mactime	May 2012	#36
yeah i see that now from yours and other posts, thanks for correction	CreekDog	May 2012	#37
I want to see the trajectory of the bullet...	Hectic Eclectic	May 2012	#30
Seeds of "reasonable doubt" are being planted.	-..__...	May 2012	#32
How so?	intheflow	May 2012	#61
The assumption that a police dispatcher's suggestion carries any legal weight is one aspect...	slackmaster	May 2012	#62
I do not think it makes any difference if the dispatcher had authority. It shows that gz was in	jwirr	May 2012	#68
An armed man following an unarmed, innocent man is provocation.	intheflow	May 2012	#95
Yes, but we don't know when it became apparent that Z was armed	slackmaster	May 2012	#100
Zimmerman claimed in his hearing that Martin was circling his car	magical thyme	May 2012	#99
Fact: Zimmerman was in his rights to follow Martin	BigD_95	May 2012	#93
NOT FACT... just your biased OPINION	fascisthunter	May 2012	#106
Right now...	-..__...	May 2012	#103
again, it seems facts and reality have a liberal bias.	Suji to Seoul	May 2012	#33
Well, he's going to trial	caseymoz	May 2012	#39
Unless the judge throws out the case	leftynyc	May 2012	#56
I realize that, but for now, it's okay. nt	caseymoz	May 2012	#113
Maybe the injuries Zimmerman has suffered is from Trayvon falling on him after Zimmerman shot him	Thinkingabout	May 2012	#40
The video we saw was black and white. You might not see the colors.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#48
what is a likely broken nose? maybe it is and maybe it is not? if my doctor told me that and didnt	robinlynne	May 2012	#43
I was told exactly that by a doctor once. She sent me to a radiology lab for a CAT scan.	slackmaster	May 2012	#58
exactly. If a doctor thinks you have a broken bone, you get an xray. the docotr needs to know if it	robinlynne	May 2012	#75
I believe that if I had declined the CAT scan my medical record would show something like that	slackmaster	May 2012	#80
"a small abrasion, no more than a quarter-inch in size – on his left ring finger below the knuckle"	ZombieHorde	May 2012	#44
Was Trayvon left or right handed? I doubt if I could break someone's	sinkingfeeling	May 2012	#63
I don't know. If he was frightened, then he may have been	ZombieHorde	May 2012	#81
Wasn't Martin Shot in the Back or the Back of His Head?	solarman350	May 2012	#51
Absolutely what I was thinking!	AynRandCollectedSS	May 2012	#53
no, not the head - he was shot once in the chest	Baclava	May 2012	#57
"prepared by his [Zimmerman's] personal physician"	Amster Dan	May 2012	#52
+1 Have a hard time believing you could break someone's nose without even a bruise on ur hand n/t	progressivebydesign	May 2012	#79
Breaking someones nose is very easy.	PavePusher	May 2012	#83
I broke my own nose using only my face	slackmaster	May 2012	#84
I've used multiple items....	PavePusher	May 2012	#88
'intermediate range,' .....	marble falls	May 2012	#55
I concluded a long time ago that Zimmerman was in the wrong because he started the confrontation	slackmaster	May 2012	#60
Am I the only one who suspects that Zimmerman 'injured himself'	Myrina	May 2012	#67
You are far from alone. On other threads several interesting theories have been advanced.	slackmaster	May 2012	#73
Lets look at the two possible situation that may have occurred.	happyslug	May 2012	#86
This message was self-deleted by its author	janx	May 2012	#107

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