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Harmony Blue

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41. Government formed by appeasements never work.
Thu May 10, 2012, 05:55 PM
May 2012

Compromise? Sure, but appeasements? No. In essence I can explain the situation happening in Greece very bluntly.

In essence, Greece has no identity or long term vision. Hence why each party is offering their vision of what Greece should look like.

Golden Dawn brings up the point that Greece has a major illegal immigrant problem (mainly illegals from Afghanistan and Pakistan). When 10% of the population living in Greece are illegals this is why a nationalistic Neo Nazi party gains such favor. Europe doesn't allow Greece to kick out these illegals because it is considered inhumane. But Greek citizens are having to see massive cuts in pay, pensions, etc due to austerity measure which are inhumane. In short, a country like Greece has enough problems, but having to feed, clothe illegals immigrants from war torn countries (thanks United States for the "nation building efforts&quot only compounds the situations.

PASOK and ND pretty much have been the good cop/bad copy routine down for a long time, but it is coming to an end. Reality is, people are fed up with both parties allowing the out of control situation in governance.

KKE is in support of feeding and clothing the illegal immigrants, and takes it is a step further that the common workers and people need to be all treated humanely. In essence, they oppose kicking out the illegal immigrants and austerity measures.

Syriza is an interesting case because they are a wildcard but they will not abandon their pro labor routs. This is where Syriza's goals align with the KKE.

LAOS is not mentioned much but they could sneak into the fray if this political mayhem continues.

Good! MNBrewer May 2012 #1
Yes they need to get out of the Euro and fix their own problems. Good. dkf May 2012 #2
Angry voters deliver blow to Greek ruling parties FarCenter May 2012 #3
The fact that a Neo Nazi Party will enter parliament is troubling iandhr May 2012 #4
Britain, except for the Mayor of London, Greece and now France CactusJak May 2012 #5
Fuck the banksters. Let them wither and die. hifiguy May 2012 #6
More than likely Turbineguy May 2012 #12
I am sure the French Aristocracy thought the same thing. Katashi_itto May 2012 #22
what specifically will Greek bankruptcy do to the US economy? n/t IamK May 2012 #7
Well it would make the European crisis worse and seriously harm world markets. Mr.Turnip May 2012 #9
Im sort of concerend that the Greeks decided to make the Fascist a legitimate political force now. Mr.Turnip May 2012 #8
Syriza isn't fascist. Harmony Blue May 2012 #10
Half counted: New Democracy (centre-right) 20%, Syriza (left) 16%, Pasok (centre-left) 14% muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #11
In a parliamentary system, votes don't necessarily translate into seats. KamaAina May 2012 #14
The largest party gets 50 'bonus' seats under the Greek system fedsron2us May 2012 #16
50 bonus seats for getting less than 20 percent of the vote KamaAina May 2012 #18
SYRIZA, the pro-cake-having, pro-cake-eating party tralala May 2012 #13
KKE has it right. David__77 May 2012 #20
About KKE tama May 2012 #25
I'm not too worried about old sectarian rivalries. David__77 May 2012 #26
Right side? tama May 2012 #28
I've rarely known any leftists as sectarian as certain anarchists. David__77 May 2012 #29
What you consider "uncooperative" or "purism" tralala May 2012 #30
See the link above tama May 2012 #31
I try to evaluate a political party on its own terms tralala May 2012 #32
AFAIK old School commies/marxists tama May 2012 #33
Old school communists believed no such thing tralala May 2012 #34
That's code language for War Communism, and was what led to the occupation of the Eastern Bloc. joshcryer May 2012 #36
The failed Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union tralala May 2012 #37
Ribbentrop and Jalta tama May 2012 #39
Nah tralala May 2012 #42
The Entire Eastern Bloc was occupied by a war machine. joshcryer May 2012 #46
It's not really war communism from a historical perspective. joshcryer May 2012 #45
OK tama May 2012 #47
Nope, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact divvied up the Eastern Bloc regardless. joshcryer May 2012 #44
We are entering a protracted period of political pandering in the politics of Greece GliderGuider May 2012 #15
I think you got it fujiyama May 2012 #17
Yep. nt bemildred May 2012 #27
more great news! unkachuck May 2012 #19
They may be 2 seats short of a majority for a New Democracy/Pasok coalition muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #21
ANEL tama May 2012 #24
Attempt to form Greece government fails after shock poll Eugene May 2012 #23
DU Rec. nt woo me with science May 2012 #35
To bad they didn't pick the "able to form a government" parties. nt hack89 May 2012 #38
Government formed by appeasements never work. Harmony Blue May 2012 #41
LAOS tama May 2012 #43
Big gains for Syriza in latest poll tama May 2012 #40
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