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William Seger

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182. If you can demonstrate "Bush Crime Families ties to the Saudi-sponsored terrorists"

Sun May 6, 2012, 09:43 PM

May 2012

... please do so. It would also be nice if you could come up with some VALID technical reasons for dismissing the NIST explanations for the collapses and/or any VALID evidence that tells a more credible story. Until then, what I'm ignoring is your unsubstantiated claims, since they seem to be based on nothing but paranoid imaginations.

So, now your story is that the Bush Crime Family got their Saudi buddies to get bin Ladin to get KSM to get 19 "stooges" to commit a suicide attacks on buildings in which they had planted magical silent explosives? And this is an example of what you call "rational thinking?"

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Saudi Arabia May Be Tied to 9/11, 2 Ex-Senators Say [View all] alp227 Mar 2012 OP

How brave and noble crim son Mar 2012 #1

Actually, Graham spoke out about this years ago... Sancho Mar 2012 #22

My heart goes out to Graham. Keystone Writer Mar 2012 #71

Senator Graham should know, he was on the Intelligence Committee and he took notes... Rhiannon12866 May 2012 #221

Senator Graham has tried to highlight this for years. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2012 #61

It was probably the Saudis and the Bush Family operatives working in concert... rfranklin Mar 2012 #103

Both in oil Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #105

along with noting the first plane hit. BlueToTheBone Mar 2012 #116

W said he "saw" the first plane hit, then later, said he was "told" about it... KansDem May 2012 #214

911-Truthers will eventually be 100% vindicated. 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #158

Utter nonsense William Seger May 2012 #168

Are you unaware of the Saudi/Bush Crime Family's longstanding & very cozy relationship 99th_Monkey May 2012 #172

Oh, so you DO admit that we were attacked by terrorists? William Seger May 2012 #180

If you want to call all those Saudi stooges "terrorists" go right ahead 99th_Monkey May 2012 #181

If you can demonstrate "Bush Crime Families ties to the Saudi-sponsored terrorists" William Seger May 2012 #182

Please don't let any of these inconvenient facts distract you from your "rational" stupor.. 99th_Monkey May 2012 #183

WTF? I don't have any problem whatsoever dealing with credible facts. William Seger May 2012 #187

I think this is where we agree to disagree. 99th_Monkey May 2012 #192

The official story was a "conspiracy theory" which was noted by the 9/11 commission chairs and other rfranklin May 2012 #194

Maybe it would help if you try to understand what I actually said William Seger May 2012 #197

There are many theories and you have chosen to argue about one version... rfranklin May 2012 #198

First, it's never been known as the "9/11 theory-considering movement" William Seger May 2012 #200

What other skyscraper "melted" and collapsed like the WTC or better yet, WTC7? rfranklin May 2012 #201

Discussing specific "truther" nonsense is not allowed here William Seger May 2012 #202

Sorry, I will stick to the topic rfranklin May 2012 #206

Most of what we know about 9/11 didn't come from the "Bush administration" William Seger May 2012 #207

Where did it come from? What were those unimpeachable sources? rfranklin May 2012 #208

You're kidding? William Seger May 2012 #211

You are straying into "truther" territory with your disposition...what credible sources? rfranklin May 2012 #212

Move the goal posts much? William Seger May 2012 #215

Using the put down cliches much? rfranklin May 2012 #216

Baloney! William Seger May 2012 #219

I'm a truther and I admit it was a terrorist attack. wildbilln864 May 2012 #193

"was it the terrorists Richard Clarke kept warning me about?" wordpix May 2012 #188

Graham always raised questions about the real perpetrators of 9/11. He questioned everything, sabrina 1 May 2012 #184

That's fascinating. OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #2

Two Democrats. Guess how long this will be allowed to go on. truthisfreedom Mar 2012 #3

So Bush invaded and destroyed two innocent countries and... JJW Mar 2012 #4

That would not necessarily mean that Al Qaeda in Afghanistan was not involved. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #5

Not Only That DallasNE Mar 2012 #17

I remember reading christx30 Mar 2012 #139

bin laden family was also on the board of the carlyle group newspeak May 2012 #169

bin Laden was probably the patsy...like Oswald in the JFK assassination... rfranklin Mar 2012 #107

bin Laden sleeps wit da fishes.... FarCenter May 2012 #177

In a nutshell libodem Mar 2012 #94

he didn't waste that money newspeak May 2012 #170

no shit sherlock! unionworks Mar 2012 #6

Beat me to it! Suich Mar 2012 #7

I believe 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi. lob1 Mar 2012 #13

thanks unionworks Mar 2012 #15

+1 sarcasmo Mar 2012 #156

no, it was 15/19 plus Osama bin Laden! Carolina Mar 2012 #39

Oh no's 2pooped2pop Mar 2012 #40

Iran, silly! Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #52

Damn Mexicans. russspeakeasy Mar 2012 #58

I kind of figured christx30 Mar 2012 #138

Except that Saudi Arabia is a police state Alcibiades Mar 2012 #141

15 of 19 were Saudis Enrique Mar 2012 #91

does anyone else remember when they interviewed the immigration officer after 9/11? newspeak Mar 2012 #120

SHERLOCK! IS THAT YOU?! unionworks Mar 2012 #127

Plus Bush* gave 40 Mil to the Taliban to stop growning poppys dmr Mar 2012 #130

even later unionworks Mar 2012 #134

Actually, the Taliban did suppress opium poppy that year. Then we invaded. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #159

Not just the Bushes, during the 9/11 hearings it was revealed that several other of our elected sabrina 1 May 2012 #185

Just 8? I thought most of them were Saudis. Anybody have that info? n/t schmice Mar 2012 #133

Duh southerncrone Mar 2012 #8

Exactly my response! alittlelark Mar 2012 #55

Double duh tralala May 2012 #179

No kidding! ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2012 #9

Saudi Arabia gosh who knew azurnoir Mar 2012 #10

In other news eridani Mar 2012 #11

Of course they were! That's why we invaded them and brought them to justice after 9/11 bayareamike Mar 2012 #12

Gee you THINK? Warpy Mar 2012 #14

And all this time, I thought it was "pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays & lesbians" who did it! Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #16

Why did G.W. Bush send a private plane around the country on 9-11...? lib2DaBone Mar 2012 #18

Yes,it's true. scarletlib Mar 2012 #28

Is it? Orrex Mar 2012 #43

I'd have more confidence in the 911 Commission report if... JHB Mar 2012 #46

In that case, all we need to do Orrex Mar 2012 #47

More evidence. I am also not a truther, but this was reported some time ago. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #60

well, gee - who are you going to trust? UpInArms Mar 2012 #79

If you can point to where I make any claim on this to be "right"... JHB Mar 2012 #82

see post 60! wildbilln864 Mar 2012 #117

Tampa Times, June 2004: "TIA now verifies flight of Saudis" alp227 Mar 2012 #147

Well, shit. Orrex Mar 2012 #149

Didn't happen on 9/11 boppers Mar 2012 #161

There was reams of newreel attesting to that fact at the time. n/t nebenaube May 2012 #204

Saudis House of Saud and bin Laden Family Members Leaving Us after 9/11/01. OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #59

remember, at the time they were going to have kissenger head the commission newspeak Mar 2012 #122

Snopes is wrong on this one, mikeysnot Mar 2012 #53

thank you!!! newspeak Mar 2012 #121

Unger agrees with snopes and vice versa. boppers Mar 2012 #162

Did you read the book? mikeysnot Mar 2012 #164

Oh, well, if the 9-11 Commission can't be trusted, who can? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #66

snopes calls it false barbtries Mar 2012 #86

It was a few days after 9/11 hifiguy Mar 2012 #88

Lets count the errors: boppers Mar 2012 #163

It's true. Even as all other aircraft were grounded for days lunatica Mar 2012 #29

Is it? Orrex Mar 2012 #44

I was hoping the sarcasm was self-evident lunatica Mar 2012 #48

Bush told the FBI not to interview members of the Saudi Royal Family KansDem Mar 2012 #70

This just in. mahina Mar 2012 #19

America has limited sovereignty on account of our energy dependency Kolesar Mar 2012 #27

No time to look back .... JJW Mar 2012 #20

Bomb Iran!!! Ichingcarpenter Mar 2012 #21

Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have been playing us for suckers since the Reagan Administration. Fuddnik Mar 2012 #23

I was under the impression that conspiracy theories had their own forum/group here.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #24

The "Official 9-11 Story" Available in your local library's fiction dept. AnOhioan Mar 2012 #26

What makes this article "fiction"? bathroommonkey76 Mar 2012 #142

The "Official 9/11 Story" KansDem May 2012 #173

The only reason this hasn't been locked and exported to the other forum lunatica Mar 2012 #31

That's no excuse. We cant be upsetting the public. nm rhett o rick Mar 2012 #111

factual reporting is different than random tools posting that steel doesn't bend snooper2 Mar 2012 #143

We already know the facts, the government told us.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #146

The "official 9/11 story" itself is a conspiracy theory, so really it comes down to coalition_unwilling May 2012 #199

Duh! n/t malaise Mar 2012 #25

Yes, we invaded the wrong country. And it's not too late. Start with their giant embassy... onehandle Mar 2012 #30

Yes, we invaded the wrong country... KansDem Mar 2012 #72

no, we invaded the right country flexnor Mar 2012 #77

Dear Saudi Royal Family... onehandle Mar 2012 #80

doesn't one also sit on the board newspeak Mar 2012 #124

These same wonderful people now pushing us into new ruinous wars in Syria and Iran leveymg Mar 2012 #32

Really? rrHeretic Mar 2012 #33

HOLY HELLLLLL! BeHereNow Mar 2012 #34

Not only that! That Titanic sank! n/t ejbr Mar 2012 #35

On April 15th, tax day. Coincidence? I THINK NOT. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #62

K&R midnight Mar 2012 #36

Not to sound too cynical Owlet Mar 2012 #37

No kidding?! Carolina Mar 2012 #38

No shit!?! wildeyed Mar 2012 #41

Some of us knew this by 9/12 RevStPatrick Mar 2012 #42

yeah, how advantageous for little boots newspeak Mar 2012 #125

In my local Gannett chain fish wrap... hayrow1 Mar 2012 #45

Wht? Saudi Arabia, our ally, actually helped Iraq attack us? Bruce Wayne Mar 2012 #49

"In June 2006 FBI’s chief of investigative publicity, Rex Tomb, saw no hard evidence The Doctor. Mar 2012 #50

The FBI had Osama on its "10 Most Wanted" list KansDem May 2012 #189

duh 2Design Mar 2012 #51

You all sound like freepers now. Muskypundit Mar 2012 #54

Did you even bother reading the OP Hugabear Mar 2012 #57

yes but some responses say that evidence is not necessary Enrique May 2012 #195

Thank you. ieoeja Mar 2012 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author BelgianMadCow Mar 2012 #114

the info about the money trail was redacted out of the commission report. BelgianMadCow Mar 2012 #115

This is ALL because Bob Kerry is running for the Senate Seat in NE.. BadGimp Mar 2012 #56

anybody still believe that 9-11 (official version) was planned and controlled from a cave KG Mar 2012 #63

No Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #217

What!?! Next they'll be saying that water is wet. progressoid Mar 2012 #64

The wrong country was invaded by the US. Lint Head Mar 2012 #65

If you might notice, mostly the US population are descendants of a kind of invader nolabels May 2012 #186

You don't say?! You mean since most of the hijackers were Saudi might mean something? AllyCat Mar 2012 #67

15 of the 19 attackers carried Saudi passports KansDem Mar 2012 #68

This is a no shit Sherlock, IMO. tpsbmam Mar 2012 #69

Duh? Ya think? Bush's best family friends & PNAC document? loudsue Mar 2012 #73

just because all of the hijackers were saudi?!?! flexnor Mar 2012 #74

K&R raouldukelives Mar 2012 #75

in the 10 years that have passed, it has never been denied that most hijackers were saudi flexnor Mar 2012 #76

Gee, dja think? Where are the 28 pages redacted from the 9/11 Commission report librechik Mar 2012 #78

No shit! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #81

And Bob Graham ought to know. sofa king Mar 2012 #83

Ooh, there's some guts, Kerrey's running for office this year! Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #84

I wish they would have both done something sooner DianaForRussFeingold Mar 2012 #85

This is something that the Bush Crime Family hifiguy Mar 2012 #87

BREAKING NEWS! THIS JUST IN! STRONG EVIDENCE LINKING JAPAN TO ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR! Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #89

Most intelligent, informed people have known that for years. appleannie1 Mar 2012 #90

And they were ALL ON THE PILL!!! Myrina Mar 2012 #91

Wasn't there wire transfers from one of the Royals to 2 of the hijackers that were fingered? Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #93

this just in from the "no shit, sherlock" desk.. frylock Mar 2012 #95

Why wasn't the evidence pursued? davidthegnome Mar 2012 #96

This story pops today because ??? L. Coyote Mar 2012 #97

Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award rocktivity Mar 2012 #99

Doesn't Saudi Arabian own Foxs News (Newscorp) Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #106

Bob Graham was my state's governor peace frog Mar 2012 #100

Would Saudis be mentioned in the REDACTED parts of the 911 report? Oh my! Festivito Mar 2012 #101

alp227 Diclotican Mar 2012 #102

I think it's follow the money newspeak Mar 2012 #123

newspeak Diclotican Mar 2012 #137

who did the put options before 9/11? newspeak May 2012 #209

kr Norrin Radd Mar 2012 #104

File that under "No Shit." nt mistertrickster Mar 2012 #108

Give it another decade - "I'm not a truther but the truthers were right about everything..." saras Mar 2012 #109

So what? It's not like anyone is going to do anything about it. rhett o rick Mar 2012 #110

This. End of thread. closeupready Mar 2012 #145

We have known this for a long time underpants Mar 2012 #112

well duh!!! nt wildbilln864 Mar 2012 #113

Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) asfghjtyk Mar 2012 #118

Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) asfghjtyk Mar 2012 #119

Shocked....Not. blackspade Mar 2012 #126

Aschcroft letting the Bin Laudin family get away lovuian Mar 2012 #128

Why would the the Saudi government take part in a terrorist atttack on the United States? cqo_000 Mar 2012 #129

To cater to their dissident extreme-fundamentalist-Islam Shia minority, who severely critique patrice Mar 2012 #131

I have a theory...not a fact. Nambe Mar 2012 #136

Bing-fracking-go!! on "... the strategic bombing of a civilian population" in more instances than patrice Mar 2012 #144

We need a real 911 investigation - the whole thing stinks. grahamhgreen Mar 2012 #132

9-11 Widows Issue Statement - Demand Answers Nambe Mar 2012 #135

Why was Airport Security not stepped up in the face of so many prior warnings? Ian62 Mar 2012 #140

They stepped up security for themselves... lutefisk Mar 2012 #148

Quiet, please. We're supposed to be moving on. n/t SomeGuyInEagan Mar 2012 #150

kick! nt wildbilln864 Mar 2012 #151

Duh. aquart Mar 2012 #152

Not LBN. We have known this since about 9/15/01 Devil_Fish Mar 2012 #153

No shit! Duh! Fucking stupid idiots! We need them to tell us that??? WTF L0oniX Mar 2012 #154

Spam deleted by cbayer (MIR Team) dfgrehe Mar 2012 #155

The Truth Is Out There... BadtotheboneBob Mar 2012 #157

"May be?" KansDem Mar 2012 #160

I think Michael Moore pointed it out rather clearly in his Cleita Mar 2012 #165

The no shit, Dick Tracy file. sarcasmo Mar 2012 #166

Maybe that weapons bill passed last week can be used to for a group that can bring change to Saudi A may3rd May 2012 #167

we just made the biggest weapons deal ever, with Saudi Arabia Enrique May 2012 #171

The no shit Dick Tracy award. sarcasmo May 2012 #174

Well, it sure as hell wasn't anybody from Iraq... MrMickeysMom May 2012 #175

never a doubt in my mind since it happened Demonaut May 2012 #176

Ya think? Autumn May 2012 #178

In other news water is wet nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #190

Ya think? Carolina May 2012 #191

the "no shit" responses really bother me Enrique May 2012 #196

right! let's invade another country... Charronxyz May 2012 #203

This concludes today's test for outing the current batch of tax-paid disinformation agents... nebenaube May 2012 #205

KnR...Let this be the "thread that never dies." KansDem May 2012 #210

Good idea, to keep this alive. elleng May 2012 #213

So what else is new? RebelOne May 2012 #218

Salem bin Laden/Arbusto Oil Bush's failed oil company Marthe48 May 2012 #220