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fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
17. I think you got it
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:32 PM
May 2012

People don't like the status quo...Big surprise. This is an example of a fitful burst of anger. That's why you see up to 8% of the vote going for freakin' neo Nazis. I see no clear winner in this clusterfuck. I think we'll see more chaos in Greece and Germany may well say they're tired of dealing with them and just cut their losses.

Greece is fucked either way. They can comprise with the bailout deals and suffer through crippling austerity for years, which won't necessarily grow their economy or improve the lives of their people... or they can default, exit the Euro, and basically be locked out for decades from borrowing from international markets. This means very limited access to international markets and considerable economic isolation. Either way they'll be suffering. But if they exit, they can at least control their own currency. The EU has been incredibly stupid the last few years in working out unworkable bailout packages the last several years. They should have been working on credible and orderly exit plans for Greece from the Euro...

Greece will inevitably default. And Spain and Italy are in deep shit too. I don't see a good outcome.

Good! MNBrewer May 2012 #1
Yes they need to get out of the Euro and fix their own problems. Good. dkf May 2012 #2
Angry voters deliver blow to Greek ruling parties FarCenter May 2012 #3
The fact that a Neo Nazi Party will enter parliament is troubling iandhr May 2012 #4
Britain, except for the Mayor of London, Greece and now France CactusJak May 2012 #5
Fuck the banksters. Let them wither and die. hifiguy May 2012 #6
More than likely Turbineguy May 2012 #12
I am sure the French Aristocracy thought the same thing. Katashi_itto May 2012 #22
what specifically will Greek bankruptcy do to the US economy? n/t IamK May 2012 #7
Well it would make the European crisis worse and seriously harm world markets. Mr.Turnip May 2012 #9
Im sort of concerend that the Greeks decided to make the Fascist a legitimate political force now. Mr.Turnip May 2012 #8
Syriza isn't fascist. Harmony Blue May 2012 #10
Half counted: New Democracy (centre-right) 20%, Syriza (left) 16%, Pasok (centre-left) 14% muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #11
In a parliamentary system, votes don't necessarily translate into seats. KamaAina May 2012 #14
The largest party gets 50 'bonus' seats under the Greek system fedsron2us May 2012 #16
50 bonus seats for getting less than 20 percent of the vote KamaAina May 2012 #18
SYRIZA, the pro-cake-having, pro-cake-eating party tralala May 2012 #13
KKE has it right. David__77 May 2012 #20
About KKE tama May 2012 #25
I'm not too worried about old sectarian rivalries. David__77 May 2012 #26
Right side? tama May 2012 #28
I've rarely known any leftists as sectarian as certain anarchists. David__77 May 2012 #29
What you consider "uncooperative" or "purism" tralala May 2012 #30
See the link above tama May 2012 #31
I try to evaluate a political party on its own terms tralala May 2012 #32
AFAIK old School commies/marxists tama May 2012 #33
Old school communists believed no such thing tralala May 2012 #34
That's code language for War Communism, and was what led to the occupation of the Eastern Bloc. joshcryer May 2012 #36
The failed Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union tralala May 2012 #37
Ribbentrop and Jalta tama May 2012 #39
Nah tralala May 2012 #42
The Entire Eastern Bloc was occupied by a war machine. joshcryer May 2012 #46
It's not really war communism from a historical perspective. joshcryer May 2012 #45
OK tama May 2012 #47
Nope, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact divvied up the Eastern Bloc regardless. joshcryer May 2012 #44
We are entering a protracted period of political pandering in the politics of Greece GliderGuider May 2012 #15
I think you got it fujiyama May 2012 #17
Yep. nt bemildred May 2012 #27
more great news! unkachuck May 2012 #19
They may be 2 seats short of a majority for a New Democracy/Pasok coalition muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #21
ANEL tama May 2012 #24
Attempt to form Greece government fails after shock poll Eugene May 2012 #23
DU Rec. nt woo me with science May 2012 #35
To bad they didn't pick the "able to form a government" parties. nt hack89 May 2012 #38
Government formed by appeasements never work. Harmony Blue May 2012 #41
LAOS tama May 2012 #43
Big gains for Syriza in latest poll tama May 2012 #40
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