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(94,489 posts) Mon Apr 13, 2015, 10:55 PM Apr 2015

Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God is not 'a magician [View all]

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Source: The Independent

The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.

Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

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Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html

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Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God is not 'a magician [View all] brooklynite Apr 2015 OP

Heads exploding over on the right in..... HAHAHAHA winstars Apr 2015 #1

But to the evangelicals, isn't the Pope supposed to be the Antichrist? brooklynite Apr 2015 #4

If they do, this should prove it to 'em! nt. winstars Apr 2015 #5

No, but many of them believe the Catholic church is some "great whore" Dragonfli Apr 2015 #19

The Death Cookie AlbertCat Apr 2015 #24

He was criticized by one evangelical 'leader' rpannier Apr 2015 #7

that museum down south AlbertCat Apr 2015 #23

Still doesn't know what he's talking about. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #2

He accepts evolution and the Big Bang and you want to tell him to shut up? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #3

No, I just prefer it when he's a more obvious ridiculous hypocrite. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #14

Ho humm. demosincebirth Apr 2015 #31

Oh for fend rpannier Apr 2015 #8

Too little too late. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #12

Trying to stay relevant? rpannier Apr 2015 #13

In a bad way, yes. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #15

agrees with us AlbertCat Apr 2015 #25

This is basically what I was taught in Catholic school decades ago. onehandle Apr 2015 #6

Me too - 8 years of catholic school, no problem with science bhikkhu Apr 2015 #17

The best biology teacher I ever had was a Jesuit that taught the subject my freshman year Dragonfli Apr 2015 #20

So, if God no longer has a magic wand, does that mean no more miracles? progressoid Apr 2015 #9

Do you believe in miracles? demosincebirth Apr 2015 #32

Definition of "oxymoron" vanamonde Apr 2015 #10

Strange that he can grasp this, yet Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #11

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #16

I like this pope immensely cosmicone Apr 2015 #18

Me too. n/t FourScore Apr 2015 #21

The pope is making faith fit the science going against centuries old dogma. AlbertCat Apr 2015 #26

arguing instead that they “require it”. AlbertCat Apr 2015 #22

I assume you don't believe, so why should you care? It's a puzzlement. demosincebirth Apr 2015 #33

The ad that popped up with this post was a T-shirt ad with Jesus riding a dinosaur. Cleita Apr 2015 #27

He needs to say this ex cathedra. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #28

A little good news and the atheist show that the can not think SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #29

OFFS. bvf Apr 2015 #35

I do not believe that he says what he thinks SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #36

I don't recall saying that. bvf Apr 2015 #37

"asshole" - you call the pope an asshole? SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #39

Did you fail ESL? bvf Apr 2015 #40

Thank you SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #43

Not my enemy? Here's your friend with a little 'liberation theologist' in him AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #50

please do not be an ass SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #52

There is zero daylight between Francis and Ratzinger on same sex marriage, OR the big bang. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #53

you can not focus very well SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #55

No, it's not a 'good thing'. It's a futile non-event, that at best drags out the death of mythology AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #57

Every little bit helps SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #59

And that's where you are woefully ignorant. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #61

"woefully ignorant" - "You don't know what the fuck you're talking about" SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #68

Yeah, i'm surprised you didn't abandon this thread an hour ago. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #70

Lower SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #72

So I'm the stupid person for knowing this was a free advertising photo op for an issue pope JP II AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #44

What do you know about the liberation theology movement? SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #46

It would not make me respect him, his constituents, or his party one iota more. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #48

Wow SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #49

I do not defer any authority or credibility to him. Want to know how the universe works? Where it AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #51

oh really? SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #54

Not sure why you're quoting someone irrelevant to this issue. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #56

Wow SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #58

Einstein was a brilliant physicist. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #60

I see you as empty with lots of anger SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #62

I, and others in this thread have pointed out the truth, and you refuse to acknowledge it. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #63

wow SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #64

And I have detailed why it is not only a meaningless platitude, it's a desperate attempt to preserve AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #65

Keep crusading against your strawmen SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #67

Point out the strawman. go ahead, i dare you. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #69

shakin in my shoes SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #73

Thanks for confirming you don't know what strawman means. Want to name drop more AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #74

i only respond to double dog dares SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #75

Keep making noise. Everyone can see you've got nothing. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #78

sounds like it is past your bedtimes SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #79

Ta-ta AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #80

Yawn. bvf Apr 2015 #30

Pope declares no such thing Lordquinton Apr 2015 #34

Exactly. Not ex cathedra, doesn't count. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #45

I guess the Baptists can get back to hating the Papist Hordes again. Sorry Bobby you're not Jesus Monk06 Apr 2015 #38

So now God Almighty has been reduced to an imaginary friend who gives you moral support in Little Tich Apr 2015 #41

But who created God? Geronimoe Apr 2015 #42

what came first, the chicken or the egg Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #47

Another reason why I like this man. Health and long life to him. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #66

See post 50 and then tell me how very much you like that bigot. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #71

You and I do not agree on much. Let it go. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #76

Generally, I don't think that is true, but there were a couple things in the last weeks. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #77

Locking - article is from 2014 OKNancy Apr 2015 #81