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thucythucy

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86. Well, we know Zimmerman "plugged" Trayvon--
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 06:32 PM
Apr 2012

we have Zimmerman's confession to that fact, and Trayvon's dead body.

As to whether Zimmerman "just up and plugged him" -- which I guess means deliberately stalked him (certainly he was following him--despite the instructions of the police dispatcher--hence the encounter) and then shot him in cold blood, or out of some exaggerated sense of his own (Zimmerman's) danger, or whatever other motive (do the words "f-king coon" ring any bells?) we shall see.

Between the 9-11 tapes, the dead body, Zimmerman's admitting he fired the gun, the accounts of witnesses (including Trayvon's girlfriend who was on the phone with Trayvon and is thus an aural material witness) plus whatever forensic evidence there might be, I think the prosecution may well have a strong enough case to require Zimmerman to testify in his own defense. Otherwise, how will the "Stand Your Ground" defense even enter into it? In that case Zimmerman's cross-examination should be interesting indeed--assuming the prosecutor knows what she's doing.

It will all come out in time. In the meantime, one unarmed teenager is dead, with Zimmerman apparently acting as police, judge, jury, and executioner for Trayvon's alleged crime of threatening and/or assaulting George Z. The sad fact is that in order to argue "Stand Your Ground" Zimmerman will have to accuse Trayvon, and Trayvon, so sad to say, is no longer around to offer us his side of the story.

One might consider that the ultimate denial of due process and the presumption of innocence.

Nobody followed him? Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #1
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #12
I wonder who's going to pay to keep him safe and fed... NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #2
He'll just surround himself with right wingers. Hoyt Apr 2012 #3
So, it'll pretty much like normal for him. NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #5
Keep him safe? Skull Pounder Apr 2012 #10
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA! NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #13
I do admit you seem cracked up... Skull Pounder Apr 2012 #17
Bookmarking dpibel Apr 2012 #30
I think this troll is every bit as incorrect in stating definitively what happened that Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #33
BTW, why did you chose "Skull Pounder" as a user name? NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #31
IT ISN'T ILLEGAL TO WALK HOME FROM THE STORE AFTER PURCHASING SWEETS AND A SOFT DRINK! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #32
Watch out... NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #38
I am terrified, I tell ya, just skeered to death, doncha know? Ecumenist Apr 2012 #45
I guess he got his own skull pounded--PPR after ten scant posts! MADem Apr 2012 #48
I think I'm gonna need body guards! William769 Apr 2012 #54
What motive would Trayvon Martin have had to attack Zimmerman? JDPriestly Apr 2012 #53
if SYG is legal for Zimmerman, then it certainly was legal for Trayvon magical thyme Apr 2012 #69
Face the music Jerry Frey Apr 2012 #4
STILL HOLDING ONTO THAT CONCRETE SHIT HUH? How many witnesses said that they saw him ON TOP Ecumenist Apr 2012 #34
Apparently, Trayvon Martin's body was found pretty far from Zimmerman's truck on a pathway JDPriestly Apr 2012 #56
Still here? nt independentpiney Apr 2012 #68
When did fleeing to another state, chollybocker Apr 2012 #6
victim = black. 'nuff said! Suji to Seoul Apr 2012 #7
Denied bail? Skull Pounder Apr 2012 #8
How could the liberal media hide anything when the much larger conservative media would reveal it? Towlie Apr 2012 #11
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #14
Why exactly are you here? Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #20
It's amazing how the Trayvon Martin story has brought the racists out of their caves Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #19
It really, really has obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #72
In some cases, it's the same one returning...over and over. janx Apr 2012 #76
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #22
Of course you're a troll. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #23
Yeah, Towlie, there are two of them here. A virtual flood! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #35
There is no evidence he left the Meiko Apr 2012 #59
The 'evidence' of GZ leaving the state came from a direct quote from his former lawyer. Boabab Apr 2012 #67
Guess I didn't read it the same way you did. Meiko Apr 2012 #81
Not to mention - I do not want him in my back yard. They need to keep their bail people in their own jwirr Apr 2012 #75
The reality of this case Skull Pounder Apr 2012 #9
The evidence "clearly" shows no such thing. Webster Green Apr 2012 #16
I understand your concern, Webster Skull Pounder Apr 2012 #29
was that a threat? grasswire Apr 2012 #46
Nah, I don't give a shit if you come here to fuck with us. Webster Green Apr 2012 #49
So you figure you can legally stalk someone, and if they confront you then you can shoot them? Towlie Apr 2012 #18
Your wording is deceitful. Skull Pounder Apr 2012 #23
Funny, the author of SYG, the legislature that voted on it, and jebbie bush ALL say that Ecumenist Apr 2012 #37
"Skull Pounder" is a mighty odd moniker thucythucy Apr 2012 #71
Your wording is deceitful Skull Pounder Apr 2012 #25
Can you imagine how zimmerman must feel having to lie on... Tikki Apr 2012 #40
Your Posting Priveleges are about to be Revoked. NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #42
So is there no tombstone graphic anymore on DU3? Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #43
Sad, isn't it? NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #44
I didn't know DU2 was still alive. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #47
DU2 SoCalMusicLover Apr 2012 #62
And the food and music are really much better! NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #80
Just for the record, that did NOT enhance my opinion of this forum. It wasn't the right thing to do. Towlie Apr 2012 #78
Neither of us are on the MIRT, are we? NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #79
Exactly. It's obvious who started the altercation. SunSeeker Apr 2012 #27
AMEN, Twolie!! Amen! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #41
You were there that night, I take it? Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #21
Pssst... yamihere Apr 2012 #26
Wow, the low-post count invasion continues! Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #28
I don't know ONE BLACK PERSON THAT TAKES THE NBPP SERIOUSLY! They are pretty much limited to Ecumenist Apr 2012 #36
Wasn't trying to link yamihere Apr 2012 #39
Thats the thing Wash. state Desk Jet Apr 2012 #52
yamihere, I have been trying to understand how people who believe Zimmerman's statement JDPriestly Apr 2012 #57
Here is what I'm willing to say I KNOW yamihere Apr 2012 #58
I hope you're son does not walk around at night with a cell phone device attached to his ear... nenagh Apr 2012 #61
Are you suggesting that Zimmerman shot Trayvon for hand gesticulations? Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #73
So, I see that you do not have an answer to my question. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #83
"Trayvon Martin should have just kept on walking." thucythucy Apr 2012 #70
So it will come out in trial that Trayvon was shot while he was walking? Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #74
Walking, standing, sitting, rolling on the grass... thucythucy Apr 2012 #77
Indeed it does. But I have yet to see evidence that Zimmerman just up and plugged him Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #85
Well, we know Zimmerman "plugged" Trayvon-- thucythucy Apr 2012 #86
he should have paid the full 150,000 dollars Tax Man Apr 2012 #15
Well, you are the Tax Man slackmaster Apr 2012 #51
If zimmerman weren't the darling of the WRONG side of this, he'd STILL be in jail solarman350 Apr 2012 #50
I predict he'll flee to Mexico and vanish. Chipper Chat Apr 2012 #55
Why Meiko Apr 2012 #60
Pls ask law enforcement to verify MintyFresh Apr 2012 #63
Sorry Meiko Apr 2012 #64
the trajectory of the bullet is more telling, he could have stumbled, twisted, or rolled over Bacchus4.0 Apr 2012 #82
That's really going to be what the case hinges on. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #87
thank u MintyFresh Apr 2012 #88
Here is MintyFresh Apr 2012 #65
Here's more MintyFresh Apr 2012 #66
Released *on bail* 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #84
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