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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
169. It seems evident that the honor system was abused
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 12:41 PM
Dec 2011

There was a discussion underway where the emerging consensus certainly looked to be no host.
Knowing that, one participant in that discussion posted the request to be host to you, deliberately not linking to the discussion thread.

I think to any fair minded person that is evidence of an approach to ethics that disqualifies the person from serving in that capacity.

EE is different from most other groups in two important ways;
1) there is an active global "war" between the present fossil/nuclear based system and the use of renewable sources,
2) the content of the postings is largely based on independently verifiable information far more than opinion.

What that *means* is a matter of opinion, but your approach to selecting a host will determine whether the group is a prolific source of misinformation, an unreadable pit where frustrated propagandists dedicate themselves to disruption, or a platform for meaningful, fact based discussion of some of the most pressing problems ever to face humanity.

The manner in which you choose the host will determine that path IMO.

I would like to apply to be a host in the fiction group. Little Star Dec 2011 #1
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #39
I'd like to continue on in the Gaming group Ohio Joe Dec 2011 #2
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #40
I would like to the campaign group boston bean Dec 2011 #3
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #41
I'd like to continue Netflix jannyk Dec 2011 #4
There's a Netflix group! tavalon Dec 2011 #11
Laugh while ya can. At the rate the stock is tanking.............. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #18
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #42
Gardening for me....getting unanimous support - see link below NRaleighLiberal Dec 2011 #5
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #43
Thanks, Skinner. n/t NRaleighLiberal Dec 2011 #58
I volunteer for the Native American Group Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #6
I was a little confused by the thread. Skinner Dec 2011 #65
oh yes, that is fine. I did not know that he had already volunteered. Thanks, Skinner. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #7
I received a notice that I was being contacted for the Utah group... midnight Dec 2011 #8
What notice is that? Skinner Dec 2011 #44
I have recieved "unanimous conset" for... ellisonz Dec 2011 #9
Done and done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #45
I'd like to apply to host the world history group RZM Dec 2011 #10
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #66
I would like to continue as host to these groups Hutzpa Dec 2011 #12
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #67
Fiction: Books fadedrose Dec 2011 #13
Socialist Progressives Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #14
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author krispos42 Dec 2011 #15
Computer help and support group canetoad Dec 2011 #16
I have been "nom'd" by 5...no, make that 7 now, people in the Economy group, if you please. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #17
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #69
Skinner, this is the consensus of the regular active members of The LGBT group. William769 Dec 2011 #19
No consensus. Pab Sungenis Dec 2011 #30
Vote Vanje Dec 2011 #34
William should be disqualified for two reasons. Pab Sungenis Dec 2011 #35
Link to message in question Pab Sungenis Dec 2011 #37
Skinner, we're working on getting through complications and come up with a concensus on a host. Fearless Dec 2011 #54
Understood. Skinner Dec 2011 #71
Update: Fearless Dec 2011 #108
Pinned. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #109
i would like to stay on in mental health mopinko Dec 2011 #20
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #72
Slow group in the beginning... is this a consensus? PeaceNikki Dec 2011 #21
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #73
I would like to be host of the Baby Boomer group OKNancy Dec 2011 #22
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #74
Oklahoma group OKNancy Dec 2011 #23
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #75
Education please proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #24
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #76
OK, I will continue as the West Virginia Group Host. Lasher Dec 2011 #25
Done. BTW: I lived in Parkersburg for one year when I was a kid. Skinner Dec 2011 #77
Weight Loss and Maintenance Group auntAgonist Dec 2011 #26
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #78
Travel Group TBF Dec 2011 #27
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #79
I would like to continue being host in E/E. XemaSab Dec 2011 #28
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #80
Can I ask if you followed the argument thread about the E&E hosts? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2011 #123
I didn't. I'm going on the honor system here. Skinner Dec 2011 #145
It seems evident that the honor system was abused kristopher Dec 2011 #169
As I said in my post above. Skinner Dec 2011 #170
Do we have your dispensation to open it back up for discussion within the group. kristopher Dec 2011 #172
Go for it. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #173
Tried but not allowed. kristopher Dec 2011 #174
A disingenuous whiny post on your part. FBaggins Dec 2011 #175
I'm happy with our hosts. joshcryer Dec 2011 #178
"others elsewhere on DU would not represent the primary posters in that forum kristopher Dec 2011 #179
I've seen no evidence of abuse. joshcryer Dec 2011 #180
When will you be granting host rights to the groups that have decided who they want? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #29
I would like to be host of the Photgrpaphy Group. CC Dec 2011 #31
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #81
I think there is maybe a need for AsahinaKimi Dec 2011 #32
The ability to create Groups is coming soon Ohio Joe Dec 2011 #33
I'm happy to set one up. Skinner Dec 2011 #83
Thank you Skinner sama AsahinaKimi Dec 2011 #104
I believe we have more then ten now! AsahinaKimi Dec 2011 #120
Repost, with consensus canetoad Dec 2011 #36
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #84
I would love to host pro-choice uppityperson Dec 2011 #38
Talk to PeaceNikki. Skinner Dec 2011 #85
Done and thanks. uppityperson Dec 2011 #113
I'd like to host North Carolina struggle4progress Dec 2011 #46
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #86
I'd work in the Missouri group, if needed. xmas74 Dec 2011 #47
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #87
I would like to be a host Broken_Hero Dec 2011 #48
I think I already set you up in the Native American group. Skinner Dec 2011 #88
nah ,its okay Broken_Hero Dec 2011 #114
This message was self-deleted by its author Orangepeel Dec 2011 #49
I would like the Jewish group again. Behind the Aegis Dec 2011 #50
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #89
I officially apply to be a General Discussion host Aerows Dec 2011 #51
General Discussion is a Forum. Skinner Dec 2011 #90
I'd like to host Propaganda Debunking OswegoAtheist Dec 2011 #52
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #91
There's a consensus in the Australia group, though there aren't many of us at the best of times... Violet_Crumble Dec 2011 #53
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #92
I'd like to continue on 'Rural/Farm' - please. Here are the replies: jannyk Dec 2011 #55
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #93
I have been asked to host the Ancient Wisdom and Pagan Spirituality group. icymist Dec 2011 #56
Link, please? (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #94
Oh, Sorry about that. Here it is: icymist Dec 2011 #105
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #106
I would like to host the Skepticism, Science and Psuedoscience group TZ Dec 2011 #57
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #95
Bereavement Group auntAgonist Dec 2011 #59
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #96
I believe that we have consensus in the Sports group. Renew Deal Dec 2011 #60
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #97
I'd like to host the Health Forum maddezmom Dec 2011 #61
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #98
How do you know a "concesus has been reached"? HopeHoops Dec 2011 #62
Done and done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #99
Positive response for Parenting. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #63
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #100
TV Chat... one_voice Dec 2011 #64
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #101
Got approval from the Open Source and Free Software group to be a host. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #70
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #102
Approval as host for Cooking and Baking. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #82
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #103
Astrology, Spirituality & Alternative Healing Lucinda Dec 2011 #107
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #146
I would like to Host the Maryland Group madinmaryland Dec 2011 #111
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #147
I'll do Virginia PunkinPi Dec 2011 #112
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #148
Thanks, Skinner! :) nt PunkinPi Dec 2011 #167
Cooking & Baking Lucinda Dec 2011 #115
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #149
Could you make me the Host of the Atheists and Agnostics group? EvolveOrConvolve Dec 2011 #116
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #150
How do OPPOSE mzteris Dec 2011 #117
I would argue that the group doesn't need a host. Skinner Dec 2011 #151
I'd like to host the Gungeon krispos42 Dec 2011 #118
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #152
I would like to be the host of the new Buddhist group I proposed, if possible. oxymoron Dec 2011 #119
What a good idea for a new group... Lithos Dec 2011 #121
Thanks, Lithos oxymoron Dec 2011 #126
I hope you get your group (or groups, as I think were requested) housewolf Dec 2011 #130
I'll try to set this up soon. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #153
I would like to host the Science group. eppur_se_muova Dec 2011 #122
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #154
I requested to be a host in the Pennsylvania group and got positive replies. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #124
General consensus in Cooking & Baking is it would be okay for me to host it. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #125
Actually HH That is not the case The empressof all Dec 2011 #128
I think it's a stretch to call that a "consensus" housewolf Dec 2011 #129
I've tried in other posts, but again, I didn't realize there was a preferred member already... HopeHoops Dec 2011 #138
Thanks for your reply housewolf Dec 2011 #141
I believe that the general consensus is actually for Lucinda to do it. kdmorris Dec 2011 #131
Upon closer reads, I agree - the concensus is for Lucinda (and I threw my weight behind her too). HopeHoops Dec 2011 #137
Here is the thread from the HIV/AIDS Support (Group) William769 Dec 2011 #127
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #155
I would like to host the Veterans Group denbot Dec 2011 #132
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #156
Ancestry and Genealogy - I would like to serve as host kdmorris Dec 2011 #133
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #157
Regarding the request for the Asian Group AsahinaKimi Dec 2011 #134
I'll try to set this up soon. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #158
YATTA!! ARIGATOU!! AsahinaKimi Dec 2011 #171
Posted a request to host the eBay, etc. group and got a positive reply. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #135
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #159
Posted a request to host the crafts group and got 3 positive replies. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #136
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #160
I have been chosen to host the LGBT dsc Dec 2011 #139
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #161
Posted a notice to the Science Group and got 8 positive replies ... eppur_se_muova Dec 2011 #140
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #162
Cancer Support Group dmr Dec 2011 #142
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #163
Host for the 'Democrats' group Tx4obama Dec 2011 #143
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #164
I would like to serve as host for the Arizona group Kali Dec 2011 #144
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #165
American History Group.... Rowdyboy Dec 2011 #166
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #176
Religion Renew Deal Dec 2011 #168
Done. (nt) Skinner Dec 2011 #177
Self delete. No longer interested Number23 Dec 2011 #181
The Wyoming group please. Change has come Dec 2011 #182
Done. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #191
I would like to host New Hampshire. Chemisse Dec 2011 #183
Done. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #192
I would like to host California petronius Dec 2011 #184
Done. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #193
This message was self-deleted by its author kdmorris Dec 2011 #185
I'd like to host North Dakota CatholicEdHead Dec 2011 #186
Done. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #194
I'd like to host Georgia. racaulk Dec 2011 #187
Done. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #195
I've had a couple of posters request that I host in the Liberal Christians group. xmas74 Dec 2011 #188
Give me a link to one of your posts in the group and I'll set you up. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #196
Here's the thread. xmas74 Jan 2012 #199
Done. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #200
I would like to serve as host of the Pets group Stinky The Clown Dec 2011 #189
Done. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #197
I can't think of anything, Skinner, except that maybe I am one of the four!! Evergreen Emerald Dec 2011 #190
I can see you. Skinner Jan 2012 #198
Any thoughts on a Political Cartoons group? Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #201
I'd like to serve as the host of the Feminists group. redqueen Jan 2012 #202
Done. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #203
African-American if there isn't a host yet... Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #204
Give me a link to one of your posts in the group. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #205
link Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #206
Done. (nt) Skinner Jan 2012 #207
Outdoor Life ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #208
Done. (nt) Skinner Feb 2012 #209
Screw it. I'm resubmitting myself as Host of the AA Group Number23 Feb 2012 #210
Blue_Tires is already a host of the AA group. Skinner Feb 2012 #211
I'd like to be the Women's Rights and Issues host. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #212
Done. (nt) Skinner Feb 2012 #213
I DONT NO ELKODCH Feb 2012 #214
Can I be on Mirt again???? firgive the primitive typing----mobile until new laptop msanthrope Feb 2012 #215
This message was self-deleted by its author Pavlo Feb 2012 #216
I'd like to be host of the non-fiction group. Neoma Jul 2012 #217
Uhm, I'd still like to be host of the non-fiction group. Neoma Aug 2012 #218
Done. (nt) Skinner Aug 2012 #220
I'd help with the PC Gaming group Aerows Aug 2012 #219
You need to ask one of the Hosts of that group to set you up. Skinner Aug 2012 #221
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