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JohnnyRingo

(18,580 posts)
92. I was focusing on this line
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 09:52 AM
Jul 2012
"We're mostly not among the 4.3 million NRA members, and a GREAT majority of us don't support you and your crusade to put a gun in every hand."

I thought I read that with competent reading skills, and it implies the average Democrat (especially here) is in favor of increased regulation or even throwing all the guns in the ocean. The fact is, I know at least as many Dem gun owners as I do Republican here in Ohio's Steel Valley. I found myself offended by that line which implies you think a gun owner is not a true liberal Democrat.

I'm a lifelong Democrat, having cast my first vote for McGovern in 1972, a 35 year dues paying UAW member, and volunteer for both Obama campaigns. Don't you dare imply I'm a right wing troll just to supplement your weak argument that the Democratic Party is pro gun control or that liberals hate guns. Even Michael Moore is a lifetime member of the NRA. I personally have disassociated myself from the organization since LaPierre has taken over because under his (mis)leadership it has morphed into a voting bloc of the Republican Party.

If the Democratic party, and Dems in general, are to be known for anything, it's support for the working class, not gun control, abortion, or religion. My own congressman, Tim Ryan, is an anti-abortion, pro 2nd amendment Catholic, and I think he's the best Ohio has ever seen. Our former governor, the great Ted Strickland, held a triple A rating from the Buckeye Gun Owners Association.

Criticizing nomenclature like "lefty" or "progressive" does not support your argument. I highly doubt Ms. Maddow would be offended or suspicious, and neither should you.
You support the UAW? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2012 #1
Not the question, but nice diversion attempt DainBramaged Jul 2012 #3
Sooo... ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2012 #82
Gunmaker Holding Gun to the Head of UAW Members in Connecticut DainBramaged Jul 2012 #107
It belongs in Florida with it's gun culture here HockeyMom Jul 2012 #110
No its not. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2012 #119
Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns DainBramaged Jul 2012 #120
Forget it, he's rolling... -..__... Jul 2012 #7
I'd call it trolling rl6214 Jul 2012 #19
Well... in his defense... -..__... Jul 2012 #23
Sorta like the RKBA forum, then Scootaloo Jul 2012 #27
Nobody's afraid Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #2
You should be. leveymg Jul 2012 #11
While that would make you feel better Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #13
If some good comes out of this, so be it. leveymg Jul 2012 #22
I don't think you understand the purpose the 2nd Amendment Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #25
I personally won't rest until you can strap that 20mm cannon to your car. harmonicon Jul 2012 #52
Cute Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #71
Not as cute as a cruise missile. harmonicon Jul 2012 #87
The intent of the 2nd was made clear safeinOhio Jul 2012 #97
YOU do not understand the purpose of the 2nd amendment. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #122
Yes indeed the ends justify the means. We've been down your road before. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #158
Actually, no rights would be removed by a ban on guns Scootaloo Jul 2012 #38
every gun-stuffer squawking on the internet today look like Ralphie with his Red Rider BB gun. DainBramaged Jul 2012 #45
What a Great post! Son of Gob Jul 2012 #51
Well a couple things Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #53
Don't try to use the Supreme Court as a shield... Scootaloo Jul 2012 #59
They will never see the missile fired at them DainBramaged Jul 2012 #65
Well a couple things Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #69
So your selling point for the 2nd amendment is "we've gotta fight the government" Scootaloo Jul 2012 #72
You have my point wrong Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #78
No, it's not... Scootaloo Jul 2012 #84
Well Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #86
I see the 2nd amendment as a means to protect my Nation from you. MattBaggins Jul 2012 #94
Hear, hear. F. Kafka Jul 2012 #115
Why don't you just try to fight our government with any set of weapons Crunchy Frog Jul 2012 #62
Well Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #70
It depends on how you define "small and weak", "superior military force", and "beat". Crunchy Frog Jul 2012 #75
It's the issue of sustainability Scootaloo Jul 2012 #76
Fair enough Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #77
Multiple factors, actually Scootaloo Jul 2012 #83
That old bumpersticker "The West wasn't won with a registered gun" always made me laugh. CTyankee Jul 2012 #100
So you really believe any militia can take on the Pentagon malaise Jul 2012 #91
There's a documentary that I think you should see. harmonicon Jul 2012 #116
The NRA opposes background checks nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #112
This is why we need to protect our right to vote ThomThom Jul 2012 #114
Canadians aren't really qualified to weigh in on the legal complexities of the gun debate in the US Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #74
Canada? Whaaa? Scootaloo Jul 2012 #80
No, but the reality is quite different down here. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #85
I'm just wondering what Canada has to do with anything. Scootaloo Jul 2012 #124
You are? Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #125
Yeah, I am Scootaloo Jul 2012 #126
You brought up Canada. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #127
I brought up the War of 1812. Scootaloo Jul 2012 #128
Oh, my bad, then, I guess. Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #130
Simply an awesome smackdown! Pholus Jul 2012 #90
What about the rights of those in the theater? Cooley Hurd Jul 2012 #89
How is my right to take my grandchildren to peaceably assemble in a public Skidmore Jul 2012 #98
IMHO, the people who are died are the one's who had their rights removed. blue neen Jul 2012 #118
some people show up at oddest times. Funny, init? CTyankee Jul 2012 #4
I noticed, I guess the foot soldiers are sent in when a tragedy occurs DainBramaged Jul 2012 #6
They sure aren't subtle, are they? CTyankee Jul 2012 #9
Yep Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #10
No doubt the guy who shot her saw her as part of a tyrranical government Crunchy Frog Jul 2012 #66
I hate guns. Really hate 'em. WillowTree Jul 2012 #5
Bravo! -..__... Jul 2012 #14
this may come as a surprise to you but some of us don't agree with your interpretation of CTyankee Jul 2012 #17
Exactly right...and well said. Oldenuff Jul 2012 #81
Who am I afraid of? flvegan Jul 2012 #8
And you are one of the stand up people I am proud to know DainBramaged Jul 2012 #12
Since when did gun ownership become a Democrat/Republican issue? JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #15
Huh Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #16
Maddow is for stronger background checks and regulation JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #99
You don't read well do you? DainBramaged Jul 2012 #18
Masks are slipping. Son of Gob Jul 2012 #31
I was told to get a thicker skin.... DainBramaged Jul 2012 #36
How dare you JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #93
I was focusing on this line JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #92
As a famous young thing once said, whatever DainBramaged Jul 2012 #96
Of course you are. JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #105
I'm not sure this is true, Rachel went with Meghan McCain to some NRA thing JI7 Jul 2012 #20
Here's "this lefty" DainBramaged Jul 2012 #21
0-6 Leave it. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #34
Thanx for posting JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #129
Your post was fine. A unanimous jury agreed. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #131
why do you call Rachel "left"? She happens to spend a lot of time questioning lies and still_one Jul 2012 #79
Actually, you make a very good point JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #103
You may not have realized that this is a discussion forum. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #24
Why? We can't do Jack Shit what's the point, mental masturbation? DainBramaged Jul 2012 #29
I'm surprised you fail to see the benefit of discussion. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #32
(sigh) DainBramaged Jul 2012 #35
Must be they're afraid of something. Jack Sprat Jul 2012 #26
They think we can make a difference.... DainBramaged Jul 2012 #28
Your prejudices would be well received on the right, ever considered switching teams? Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #30
Well then, where have you been Jack Sprat Jul 2012 #33
Well Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #37
Lurking for 7 years. Jack Sprat Jul 2012 #40
I don't support the NRA Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #41
BINGO DainBramaged Jul 2012 #42
Well Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #43
Interesting point you raised. Tejas Jul 2012 #39
Probably because Thursday night Jack Sprat Jul 2012 #44
Living in fear of a rare tragedy is no way to go through life son Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #48
I'm not your son. Jack Sprat Jul 2012 #60
Relax Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #64
Because they don't have a case. jeff47 Jul 2012 #46
Interesting Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #47
The purpose of the 2nd amendment is no longer possible. jeff47 Jul 2012 #49
Ok I'll take it point by point Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #57
Actually, you're not. You're just yelling more. jeff47 Jul 2012 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #66
I understand your position Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #68
You understand, but continue to not respond? jeff47 Jul 2012 #141
Of course they do. permatex Jul 2012 #55
Maybe if you use enough emoticons, people won't notice you don't have an argument. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2012 #63
Oh, I have an argument permatex Jul 2012 #88
I've seen plenty of your posts. jeff47 Jul 2012 #142
the only ridicule I've seen here permatex Jul 2012 #143
Yes, no ridicule from you. Such as that post. jeff47 Jul 2012 #144
What bullshit permatex Jul 2012 #146
What you call "flames" and getting called "names" IS debate. jeff47 Jul 2012 #147
So we're debating now? permatex Jul 2012 #149
Because "the hateful PM" isn't relevant jeff47 Jul 2012 #150
That's weird. zappaman Jul 2012 #50
You won, what's the matter, you don't want to win? DainBramaged Jul 2012 #54
Why not focus on taking guns away from the people who misuse them instead of those who don't? The Straight Story Jul 2012 #56
That's not what my OP is about, the gun lobby won, period DainBramaged Jul 2012 #58
because having the ability to kill something iamthebandfanman Jul 2012 #73
I have no fear of the government taking my guns and I have zero respect for the NRA. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #95
They're afraid of EVERYTHING. tridim Jul 2012 #101
I'm a gun owner and I sleep with my doors unlocked. NutmegYankee Jul 2012 #102
I lock about half the time. tridim Jul 2012 #109
If your "introducing a gun into (your) community" would endanger them.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #152
More fiber, less guns..... DainBramaged Jul 2012 #104
It is surprising how many DU "members" are pro-gun. DCBob Jul 2012 #106
Nah, they've inflitrated their talking points like weeds DainBramaged Jul 2012 #108
"members" NutmegYankee Jul 2012 #111
Of course not. DCBob Jul 2012 #113
You've been misled. beevul Jul 2012 #132
I dont think so... DCBob Jul 2012 #133
Lots of guns have the ability to hold an extended magazine. beevul Jul 2012 #135
well then we have been in need of new tougher regs for quite some time. DCBob Jul 2012 #140
Your ignorance can be cured... if you want to cure it. PavePusher Jul 2012 #153
Well your ignorance is clearly of the kind that cant be cured.. DCBob Jul 2012 #155
Specifics, please. What am I ignorant about? n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #156
Well for one.. it seems you dont even realize you started this ignorance crap. DCBob Jul 2012 #157
No, you put yours on public display. PavePusher Jul 2012 #163
According the the poll on DU you're a small minority here Marooned Jul 2012 #117
Didn't know DU polls were scientific Tsiyu Jul 2012 #121
Your post merely proves you don't know the laws pertaining to firearms. PavePusher Jul 2012 #154
So? A majority of people used to think that owning slaves was just fine. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #123
Fear is the motivating factor for all RW polices. baldguy Jul 2012 #134
I'm not a right winger Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #136
17 dead, 58 injured. And that's just one incident. baldguy Jul 2012 #138
Well Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #139
I suppose some people just don't understand gun kill people. ileus Jul 2012 #137
Well at least you didn't say 'you people' B2G Jul 2012 #145
HI YOUS PEOPLES DainBramaged Jul 2012 #148
Not afraid of you in the least kctim Jul 2012 #151
Sure cuz what happened in Aurora was a fantasy Tsiyu Jul 2012 #159
You shouldn't generalize Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #160
Sure you do Tsiyu Jul 2012 #161
Your Purity Test is bullshit. n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #164
Na kctim Jul 2012 #162
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