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In reply to the discussion: You folks coming here claiming you NEED to protect your right to own a gun [View all]JohnnyRingo
(18,580 posts)92. I was focusing on this line
"We're mostly not among the 4.3 million NRA members, and a GREAT majority of us don't support you and your crusade to put a gun in every hand."
I thought I read that with competent reading skills, and it implies the average Democrat (especially here) is in favor of increased regulation or even throwing all the guns in the ocean. The fact is, I know at least as many Dem gun owners as I do Republican here in Ohio's Steel Valley. I found myself offended by that line which implies you think a gun owner is not a true liberal Democrat.
I'm a lifelong Democrat, having cast my first vote for McGovern in 1972, a 35 year dues paying UAW member, and volunteer for both Obama campaigns. Don't you dare imply I'm a right wing troll just to supplement your weak argument that the Democratic Party is pro gun control or that liberals hate guns. Even Michael Moore is a lifetime member of the NRA. I personally have disassociated myself from the organization since LaPierre has taken over because under his (mis)leadership it has morphed into a voting bloc of the Republican Party.
If the Democratic party, and Dems in general, are to be known for anything, it's support for the working class, not gun control, abortion, or religion. My own congressman, Tim Ryan, is an anti-abortion, pro 2nd amendment Catholic, and I think he's the best Ohio has ever seen. Our former governor, the great Ted Strickland, held a triple A rating from the Buckeye Gun Owners Association.
Criticizing nomenclature like "lefty" or "progressive" does not support your argument. I highly doubt Ms. Maddow would be offended or suspicious, and neither should you.
I thought I read that with competent reading skills, and it implies the average Democrat (especially here) is in favor of increased regulation or even throwing all the guns in the ocean. The fact is, I know at least as many Dem gun owners as I do Republican here in Ohio's Steel Valley. I found myself offended by that line which implies you think a gun owner is not a true liberal Democrat.
I'm a lifelong Democrat, having cast my first vote for McGovern in 1972, a 35 year dues paying UAW member, and volunteer for both Obama campaigns. Don't you dare imply I'm a right wing troll just to supplement your weak argument that the Democratic Party is pro gun control or that liberals hate guns. Even Michael Moore is a lifetime member of the NRA. I personally have disassociated myself from the organization since LaPierre has taken over because under his (mis)leadership it has morphed into a voting bloc of the Republican Party.
If the Democratic party, and Dems in general, are to be known for anything, it's support for the working class, not gun control, abortion, or religion. My own congressman, Tim Ryan, is an anti-abortion, pro 2nd amendment Catholic, and I think he's the best Ohio has ever seen. Our former governor, the great Ted Strickland, held a triple A rating from the Buckeye Gun Owners Association.
Criticizing nomenclature like "lefty" or "progressive" does not support your argument. I highly doubt Ms. Maddow would be offended or suspicious, and neither should you.
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You folks coming here claiming you NEED to protect your right to own a gun [View all]
DainBramaged
Jul 2012
OP
Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns, Guns
DainBramaged
Jul 2012
#120
Yes indeed the ends justify the means. We've been down your road before. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2012
#158
every gun-stuffer squawking on the internet today look like Ralphie with his Red Rider BB gun.
DainBramaged
Jul 2012
#45
So your selling point for the 2nd amendment is "we've gotta fight the government"
Scootaloo
Jul 2012
#72
It depends on how you define "small and weak", "superior military force", and "beat".
Crunchy Frog
Jul 2012
#75
That old bumpersticker "The West wasn't won with a registered gun" always made me laugh.
CTyankee
Jul 2012
#100
Canadians aren't really qualified to weigh in on the legal complexities of the gun debate in the US
Warren DeMontague
Jul 2012
#74
this may come as a surprise to you but some of us don't agree with your interpretation of
CTyankee
Jul 2012
#17
why do you call Rachel "left"? She happens to spend a lot of time questioning lies and
still_one
Jul 2012
#79
Your prejudices would be well received on the right, ever considered switching teams?
Reasonable_Argument
Jul 2012
#30
Maybe if you use enough emoticons, people won't notice you don't have an argument. (nt)
jeff47
Jul 2012
#63
Why not focus on taking guns away from the people who misuse them instead of those who don't?
The Straight Story
Jul 2012
#56
I have no fear of the government taking my guns and I have zero respect for the NRA.
HopeHoops
Jul 2012
#95