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In the discussion thread: Anti-Obama former top aide to Alan Grayson writes love letter to Ron Paul on CT blog [View all]

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Sun Jan 1, 2012, 02:03 PM

nashville_brook (17,443 posts)

15. well said -- just finished reading the Stoller piece, and it's clearly not a love letter

Stoller has identified internal contradictions in the liberal narrative -- contradictions that have sent people who are againt the drug war, and against empire, running to this incredibly weak/racist/gold-standard nutball.

if the liberal narrative is getting kicked in the nuts by the likes of Ron Paul, there's obviously work that needs to be done within the party to align our principles with policy. the party will survive only insofar as these issues are addressed.

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47 replies	Author	Time	Post
Anti-Obama former top aide to Alan Grayson writes love letter to Ron Paul on CT blog [View all]	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	OP
Stoller's	ProSense	Jan 2012	#1
thank you. I missed that. Will delve into that now.	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#2
I think in some areas, Paul has points	mmonk	Jan 2012	#3
Stoller is saying that the system is rotten, Obama is part of the problem, and libertarians	leveymg	Jan 2012	#4
I caught a piece on NPR earlier in which they interviewed several under-30 types at a Paul Rally.	PeaceNikki	Jan 2012	#6
That may be the most accurate thing I've seen posted today.	leveymg	Jan 2012	#7
this was a dominant theme at our holiday family gatherings -- vote for the outsider.	nashville_brook	Jan 2012	#18
Have people lost their minds? Ron Paul has been in Congress since 1976.	TBF	Jan 2012	#29
Thank you TBF, this is so true.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#44
Hah, that's the perfect way to put it.	TheWraith	Jan 2012	#24
Untested? We've seen what capitalism does and Ron Paul only wants more of it.	TBF	Jan 2012	#27
I believe you speak for many here.	Kaleko	Jan 2012	#8
Stoller is not making a "valid argument" so you have missed my point.	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#11
your point isn't valid, b/c it's not what Stoller is saying.	nashville_brook	Jan 2012	#16
The misnamed "audit the Fed" bill passed as part of Dodd-Frank and turned out to be	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#25
Bullshit	MFrohike	Jan 2012	#35
yeah - the "audit" listed the loans. That is what central banks do - they make emergency loans.	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#38
And that proves what?	MFrohike	Jan 2012	#40
Well said. This style is one I reject at all times.	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2012	#13
The key argument seems to be that there's a touch of statism at the heart of liberalism	starroute	Jan 2012	#14
Excellent analysis and questions, all.	leveymg	Jan 2012	#30
I don't doubt that the highly-placed Nazi sympathizers were a real threat	starroute	Jan 2012	#36
The decision to let the big fish fascisti go and haul in some small fry instead was also made by	leveymg	Jan 2012	#46
And this is why I have problems with the case of the Nazi saboteurs	starroute	Jan 2012	#37
Ex parte Quirin draws precedence from the military tribunals of the Civil War era.	leveymg	Jan 2012	#47
well said -- just finished reading the Stoller piece, and it's clearly not a love letter	nashville_brook	Jan 2012	#15
Absolutely wrong. This is the money quote from Stoller-	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#28
You are mistaken	Hawkowl	Jan 2012	#31
Not close. Primary dealers do auction Treasuries but that is 1/100 of what the public Fed does.	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#33
The Federal Reserve IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT!!!	Hawkowl	Jan 2012	#43
WHAT!?? His platform is stupid and impractical. Every point.	PeaceNikki	Jan 2012	#5
Sorry to hear that Grayson ever hired that guy, but	MH1	Jan 2012	#9
Why are you "sorry" that Grayson "ever hired that guy"?	brentspeak	Jan 2012	#19
Because I've had my very own personal experience with Stoller.	MH1	Jan 2012	#22
Meanwhile, would you care to comment on the points in my post about libertarianism?	MH1	Jan 2012	#23
I don't like governmental libertarianism either	brentspeak	Jan 2012	#42
Another one for BFK's enemies list: Alan Grayson.	Iggo	Jan 2012	#10
when dems would stand for & act on something meaninful Paul is just a nuisance, but	msongs	Jan 2012	#12
he's not anti-Obama nor pro-Ron Paul	Enrique	Jan 2012	#17
This message was self-deleted by its author	brentspeak	Jan 2012	#20
k and r not for the OP but for the intelligent discussion following the op	bbgrunt	Jan 2012	#21
You've completely mischaracterized Stoller's article.	girl gone mad	Jan 2012	#26
Were we actually supposed to know what "CT" means to you?	WinkyDink	Jan 2012	#32
Apparently, "anything I disagree with".	Ruby the Liberal	Jan 2012	#34
So is this suppose to turn us against Grayson	Raine	Jan 2012	#39
No. Grayson is fine. I hope he is (re)elected.	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#41
Wow, this kind of thread is what makes me proud of DU, you guys all rock!	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#45

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