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Good point - he has basically robbed the MSG of 'change' from them got root Jan 2012 #1
it was hardly "robbed" SixthSense Jan 2012 #23
true, and it is a common political theme that can be highly effective during times of stress got root Jan 2012 #26
If by rob you mean a reversion to... ellisonz Jan 2012 #159
Ron Paul is an insane racist maniac JoePhilly Jan 2012 #2
Yes, yes, we know he is an 'insane, racist, maniac' and that's the point raised in the sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #141
Ron Paul does not care about the "racial" aspect of the drug war ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #146
Close but no cigar, but extremely close... nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #170
The question is ProSense Jan 2012 #3
Your usual black-and-white misrepresentation of what I say begs the question... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #10
Ah ProSense Jan 2012 #13
Are you for the current levels of defense spending? Are you for the drug war? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #15
Newsflash ProSense Jan 2012 #24
You are evading the question by pointing to irrelevancies about Paul. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #27
Simply ProSense Jan 2012 #30
Nonsense: He's just like the rest of the Republican field... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #35
Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #37
Gingrich. Racist, misogynist, homophobe... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #129
Wow, you're really good at avoiding questions, aren't you? ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #176
"Doesn't matter if Paul in office would really reduce defense spending" MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #157
Do you really want to portray your reasoning as clueless? ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #178
Bingo. Scuba Jan 2012 #162
So much greater is the shame for allowing such a shitbrick to steal space we should occupy TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #18
What ProSense Jan 2012 #25
It isn't being a racist that is putting wind into Paul's sails and you well know it. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #128
You are arguing a completely distinct point and ignoring the one presented to you. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #154
You seem to believe any mention of Paull here means he's being "hyped"... Scuba Jan 2012 #163
So do you have answer to the question in the OP? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #142
Actually, no, that's not the question DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #185
This message was self-deleted by its author leeroysphitz Jan 2012 #4
I don't see Democrats offering -anything- right now. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #5
our campaign message is "People First-Politics Last" BlueToTheBone Jan 2012 #31
Happy new year to you and thank you for your Blue work! Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #126
I would so like to see him in a debate with Obama. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #6
So would I, particularly with regard to issues like NorthCarolina Jan 2012 #33
I would like to see that also. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #144
Me too. Aside from the Machiavellian consideration that Paul would be coalition_unwilling Jan 2012 #36
It would be a jaw dropper of an evening, BlueToTheBone Jan 2012 #106
Because racist, knuckle-dragging right-wingers Autumn Jan 2012 #7
there was a young man, who was filming the OWS protestors in NYC bring up his name as a canidate got root Jan 2012 #12
Sooner or later, someone is going to come up who is not Autumn Jan 2012 #20
We have them already. Paul's on the other side, which means he might have to be answered. DirkGently Jan 2012 #130
They'll quickly come out against peace and personal liberty if the GOP deigns to own those issues Leopolds Ghost Jan 2012 #136
So Ron Paul candidacy could actually cause the Democ. party to have an auto-immune reaction against Leopolds Ghost Jan 2012 #137
Plus, keep in mind lots of Anonymous are or were Ron Paul supporters. Leopolds Ghost Jan 2012 #139
And how would the resident reflexive Obama defenders approach this fact? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #124
I am seeing lots of support for him in my young nephews and their friends Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #152
I would only change the drug wars portion to civil liberties in general quinnox Jan 2012 #8
Bullshit ProSense Jan 2012 #11
you got root Jan 2012 #14
You ProSense Jan 2012 #17
are got root Jan 2012 #22
Which ProSense Jan 2012 #28
I believe you owe answers to several in the thread--not the other way around DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #187
You are missing the point. It doesn't matter what anyone on DU thinks of Paul. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #145
kicking out the DLC will do wonders for our message BlueToTheBone Jan 2012 #114
Instead of concentrating so much on Ron Paul quinnox Jan 2012 #16
Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #19
Yes, exactly: The question his candidacy poses for the DEMOCRATS. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #29
Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #39
Hmmmmmmmmmmm? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #40
Again ProSense Jan 2012 #41
It is you who doesn't have a good comeback. Kaleko Jan 2012 #49
Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #69
There is no hyping of Ron Paul on this thread. Kaleko Jan 2012 #87
You're ProSense Jan 2012 #91
No - it is pointing out the vacuum left by the failure bread_and_roses Jan 2012 #100
That is correct. Kaleko Jan 2012 #102
+ 100 nt Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #153
You've got this one in a corner DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #188
Note that Paul and the President share an opposition to marriage equalty. Why is that? Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #45
Really? ProSense Jan 2012 #75
He's a Rape-Publican. Those views WON'T "manifest." But that's not the topic under discussion. ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #179
Other than smoking Pot, I don't see Paul as that strong on civil liberties. BiggJawn Jan 2012 #21
Smoking pot is an issue that directly impacts tens of millions of people SixthSense Jan 2012 #90
But are you willing to destroy the rest of the social fabric for it? BiggJawn Jan 2012 #92
What social fabric? SixthSense Jan 2012 #94
I got you now. BiggJawn Jan 2012 #104
That is the real story, Jack. Rather than demand the party kick the legs out from under TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #9
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #32
Yes. Exactly. Thank you. To repeat your final line: JackRiddler Jan 2012 #38
I'll reply to you, since woo me with science's post got hidden paulk Jan 2012 #158
Yes I thought that post was excellent dreamnightwind Jan 2012 #165
I read the post, and I consider it DANGEROUS that the post was hidden DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #190
But the Democrats are offering us all something... truedelphi Jan 2012 #168
Ron Paul Stands Against Civil Rights and Equality for All. MineralMan Jan 2012 #48
Bingo. rucky Jan 2012 #34
Absurd. You sound like Ron's mother Robb Jan 2012 #42
Paul is a huge anti gay crusader. More so than the President, although they share the Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #52
You want to make it personal? Robb Jan 2012 #61
Congratulations for criticizing Paul. You're a real trooper in the fight. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #53
I find your definition of "leading" fascinating. Robb Jan 2012 #57
So you think opposition to war and drug war is like an insane man on the subway? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #67
Weak sauce. No, you see, Paul is the insane yelling man. Robb Jan 2012 #78
You did a much better job of making a point I tried to make as well. Perfect. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #81
It's all right, many people argue with the batting cage machine after so many swings and misses. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #89
And I have asked "leading who?" with no answer. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #68
+1000 ellisonz Jan 2012 #160
Make no mistake, he also inspires rage among us who are critical of Obama. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #43
Agreed on all points: "Fuck him." But why aren't the Democrats leading on peace and drug reform? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #44
Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #47
lol nt BootinUp Jan 2012 #64
Leading who? The Republicans? I think we are. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #50
No. Not the Republicans, and not the point. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #51
Great questions.. Upton Jan 2012 #55
Actually ProSense Jan 2012 #59
It *is* the point, though. He 'gets' to talk about the stuff he talks about because he is a lunatic PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #60
No. He gets traction with liberals where Dems have dropped the ball. DirkGently Jan 2012 #88
And yes, I will post 'more stuff about how Paul sucks' in every conversation on DU that involves him PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #66
+100. When it comes to civil rights and equality, MineralMan Jan 2012 #46
Civil rights are for white, male, Christian property owners. The rest of us are fucked in Paultopia. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #54
Precisely. That is why any praise for Ron Paul on other MineralMan Jan 2012 #56
The War on Drugs... Upton Jan 2012 #58
What? ProSense Jan 2012 #62
I never said they were worse that Ron Paul.. Upton Jan 2012 #73
You find attacks of a Republican on DU to be... "ODD" and/or hypocritical?!?! PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #76
And I find defense.. Upton Jan 2012 #82
Quick.. move the goalposts!! PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #83
Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #103
Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #77
The War on Drugs as a national issue MineralMan Jan 2012 #65
Many polls now show a majority supporting marijuana legalization. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #70
Look, I've been working to end laws against voluntary MineralMan Jan 2012 #86
Nailed it. DirkGently Jan 2012 #63
Thank you. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #71
I think you are incorrect - or at best, broad-brush stereotyping MH1 Jan 2012 #72
Ron's not outflanking anyone. He's a lunatic who never had a chance at the Presidency. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #74
very well said. nashville_brook Jan 2012 #79
The hand-wringing over this.. 99Forever Jan 2012 #80
So ProSense Jan 2012 #84
"...why keep mentioning him?" 99Forever Jan 2012 #105
wtf? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #121
I noticed exactly the same thing. 99Forever Jan 2012 #123
Mentioning him on an internet discussion board is not giving him any traction Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #155
99 +1 in this case. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #85
Exactly. He's not an election threat. They doth protest too much. DirkGently Jan 2012 #93
You ProSense Jan 2012 #95
I don't know what makes you think that Democrats are the party of peace or killing the drug wars cali Jan 2012 #96
Democrats are the party that wants votes from those that support those things. DirkGently Jan 2012 #107
Paul is not constrained by the need to be politically viable. gulliver Jan 2012 #97
Very well put. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #98
Exactly ProSense Jan 2012 #99
You're not constrained by it either. So how do you stand on war for empire and drug war? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #109
Obviously something Paul's saying is "politically viable" or it wouldn't so anger Obama partisans. DirkGently Jan 2012 #113
Excellent points. Thank you. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #115
Totally untrue. He should inspire rage among all Democrats. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #116
The precise strawman silliness Greenwald predicted in his piece. Again, the partisan worldview DirkGently Jan 2012 #118
Um as I have pointed out in this thread, he isn't right about anything. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #120
1) Not the point 2) You literally just copy pasta'd your own prior post? As a "response?" DirkGently Jan 2012 #125
It was clear you didn't read or comprehend it in context of this subthread. PeaceNikki Jan 2012 #127
And this has what to do with him having any functional space at all is because Democrats TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #131
Dead-on. The threat is that progressive ideas Dems have abandoned resonate. Defeats the narrative. DirkGently Jan 2012 #149
He's ProSense Jan 2012 #117
You empower Paul by so carefully ignoring the point of the OP DirkGently Jan 2012 #122
Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #138
I think it is also because few people know his racist, homophobic beliefs. beyurslf Jan 2012 #101
With eight simple words Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #108
You could at least quote the eight words so I know what you mean, dude. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #110
I'll leave you to figure that out. Dewey Finn Jan 2012 #111
O zen master! Seven syllables for you. And in next line, five. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #112
Nailed it. n/t girl gone mad Jan 2012 #119
But, his stances on war and drug policy are not different. That's what pisses *me* off. joshcryer Jan 2012 #132
Again, missing the point. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #133
Most intellectuals know better. All you're doing is giving him a platform to lie. joshcryer Jan 2012 #134
Right ProSense Jan 2012 #135
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Ron Paul is an asshole, Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #140
Hell I think at one time or another everyone one of those GOP candidates have supported an issue... LynneSin Jan 2012 #148
Very true! nt Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #150
Yep. mmonk Jan 2012 #143
Anyone who cares more about their drugs then the rights of minorities, GLBTQ and women..... LynneSin Jan 2012 #147
Apparently the rights of two million people in the prison system... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #151
Why does it have to be a choice and how much of one is considering the real world TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #156
They're locking up potheads...for gay rights? Logic problem here. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #174
Very cruel of you DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #192
Yes and no...good idea, worth looking at, but mostly no. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #161
We all know that Ron Paul is a racist and unlikely to ever win the Presidency randr Jan 2012 #164
Ron Paul has NEVER been a threat. We should be LAUGHING at Paul. Countdown_3_2_1 Jan 2012 #166
So? Why all the particular rage at Paul? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #167
He's a threat to liberal-self-image because his ideology is incompatible with liberals. joshcryer Jan 2012 #169
If you got Paul this would be no brainer nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #171
Here's an example of the tragedy. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #172
That's ProSense Jan 2012 #175
Thanks for showing the culmination of this sorry trend. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #180
You ProSense Jan 2012 #181
I most certainly do, JackRiddler Jan 2012 #183
You know what ProSense Jan 2012 #184
It's more insidious than that--they're trying to link opposition to war, Drug War to rightwing Romulox Jan 2012 #173
Ron Paul isn't anti-war because of any morally sound reason. The same goes for the war on drugs. phleshdef Jan 2012 #177
There will be no Ron Paul government. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #182
And ProSense Jan 2012 #186
"Romney would support a war on Iran. Don’t vote for a neocon warmonger!" ProSense Jan 2012 #189
Wait, so now you're "hyping" Romney? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #191
Frankly ProSense Jan 2012 #194
Thank you for continuing object lesson JackRiddler Jan 2012 #195
Just because that crazy man has one or two good thoughts in his head Rex Jan 2012 #193
But why is that? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #196
I don't think they are angry as much as I think Rex Jan 2012 #197
Yes. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #198
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