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Response to mzmolly (Reply #29)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 11:52 PM

32. No, first a prosecutor will determine the significance..

if it will help, hurt, or just muddy the waters for them. Let's say this witness' dad was the Grand Wizard? Doubtful, but witness credibility is a significant part of every criminal trial.

"Think about the police interviewing every person you have ever known and asking them questions..."

That was a comparison.


No. That is an example. Most people can think of people in their past or present who would not portray them well if asked by a police investigator...some may actually make shit up...the police know this and so do judges and prosecutors. Did you steal the neighbor girl's boyfriend 20 years ago? Did you report a co-worker for a rules violation 3 jobs back? Were you fired for cause from any job? Did you go through a bad divorce? Did you call animal control on the neighbor's dog 6 1/2 years ago?

So you get a witness on the stand and the only people who know for sure what is true or false is the witness and the defendant. The witness makes a proclamation, "he molested me", the prosecutor can't use others to collaborate this because the witness told nobody. Now the defense gets to question the witness. Isn't it true that you have accused at least 4 other's of molesting you? (the defense knows because the accused knows everything about this person in minute details, and the police spoke to her for an hour or 2, if that) Witness: Well, yes.. (Prosecutor is picking himself off the floor). Not everyone questioned by police are used as witnesses in the trial, in fact outside of Hollywood trials, there has to be a very direct link between testimony and the criminal charges.

Lastly, there are no depositions in criminal cases except in unusual cases such as an illness which may make the witness unavailable for the trial, or if the witness is a minor..There has been no testimony that I am aware of taken in this case. No, the things listed are the raw product of the criminal investigator's reports, or news reports based on people the news reporters spoke to...people never lie to reporters...

The first link: "None of the cases was exhaustively investigated, so we can't know what actually happened at this point."

Second link: "“You describe him as a bully?” an investigator asks the unnamed former co-worker. “Yes,” he replies. "And did you feel bias towards yourself? “Yes, and that is because I was an easy target for him,” the former co-worker responds." Meaningless, not admissible, without much more and some way to collaborate..maybe the person has made these claims at every job he has worked at against others who have no history..we can't know at this point.

Third link. There may actually be something usable in that case..testimony or some such..admissibility is another question.

Forth link: I don't know. Isn't Zimmerman Hispanic?

No matter how you slice it, none of your links include depositions or testimony, they are news stories..

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