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In reply to the discussion: Greenwald: Progressives and the Ron Paul fallacies [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)16. I don't
"Matt Yglesias: 'Everything bad people say about Ron Paul seems true to me, but it'd be nice if he won the nomination'"
....buy into that logic, and it certainly doesn't go as far as the constant promotion of Paul by Greenwald. Here's the rest of Yglesias' statement
Next up Ill take Newt Gingrich who manages to be a comically weak candidate who also gives no particular evidence of commitment to conservative principles.
Still, the problem with this logic is Paul's positions are "bullshit," primarily myths created to sell him. What would be the point of creating the impression that these positions are real?
There are already signs on the campaign trail that the veneer is coming off and via Paul's own statements.
I mean, the guy was an anti-war hero, and now there is evidence that's complete bullshit, with his own campaign manager declaring that he's not anti-war.
All I have to do his look at his son, who has joined him on the campaign trail. Rand Paul not only proposed criminalizing "radical political protests," but he also created a budget that included billions more for defense than Obama's.
I want debate based on positions people actually hold, not propaganda to fool the masses. That has gone on too long with Paul.
I saw a great tweet in response to the logic that basically says: "He's horrible, but I agree with him on somethings!!! For example, he's a racist supported by racists who want blacks to acknowledge that they were better off as slaves, an anti-gay bigot supported by people who want to kill gays, but, hey, at least he wants to close U.S. bases in other countries and legalize weed":
"That's like saying the KKK has some good ideas on buying local."
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I'm sure that when he read it, he recognized the Rush Limbaugh-esque defense of
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#39
when you're not quashing dissent in all forms, you're giving glen the vapors... not bad for a long
dionysus
Dec 2011
#27
Link to where Greenwald has pimped for Paul, called him great, not fringe at all, and
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#58
Libertarian who taunts progressives about losing entitlements (welfare) that wants to end them.
freshwest
Jun 2013
#76
What world is this guy living in, Obama has a 84% approval rating among Libs/Progressives.
FarLeftFist
Dec 2011
#8
Matt Yglesias: "Everything bad people say about Ron Paul seems true to me,
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#13
I guess any mention is good. Even when your being called simple-minded.
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#25
The contention of the thread was that he SUPPORTS Paul, that position is not supported.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#65
Of course, few want to address his actual point. Now they are criticizing
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#57
Yup, tough guys let lies stand and lets face it the accusation made in the post is unsupported.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#67
The anonymous poster should not make up shit out of thin air and attempt to justify the falsehood
TheKentuckian
Dec 2011
#69