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Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:02 PM

xtraxritical (3,224 posts)

161. Vote a straight Democratic ballot, you'll be happy again!

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168 replies	Author	Time	Post
Havnt posted on DU in years... But dammit I have an insurance rant... [View all]	bunnies	Jul 2012	OP
righteous rant.	barbtries	Jul 2012	#1
Used to be "only the strong survive"	bunnies	Jul 2012	#6
Have you looked into these Health Exchanges?	aggiesal	Jul 2012	#95
It appears that my state, NH, wants to ban them.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#113
They can not ban the exchange.	obxhead	Jul 2012	#150
K&R - Good rant.	HopeHoops	Jul 2012	#2
it's time for Medicare For All	riverwalker	Jul 2012	#3
Yeah that is cool to say "Medicare For All" all the time, but it would never pass Congress	krawhitham	Jul 2012	#135
This must be done. It must be. A top priority. nt	Honeycombe8	Jul 2012	#139
Vote a straight Democratic ballot, you'll be happy again!	xtraxritical	Jul 2012	#161
And thanks to ACA you HAVE TO BUY IT.	Indydem	Jul 2012	#4
"Single Payer. Now."	Melissa G	Jul 2012	#10
And then theres that.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#11
In 2014, I believe low- to middle-income people will receive subsidies	JDPriestly	Jul 2012	#19
Separating insurance co's from profit...	bunnies	Jul 2012	#52
Yes. I believe that help is supposed to be	PotatoChip	Jul 2012	#155
If you are a low wage earner you should qualify for subsidized health insurance.	notadmblnd	Jul 2012	#99
Actually,	ProSense	Jul 2012	#12
Since the cost of the coverage is more than a third of my yearly gross...	bunnies	Jul 2012	#16
It sounds like you would be eligible for a subsidy to help with paying for insurance under the ACA	rox63	Jul 2012	#37
I really hope so.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#65
Seems the responses are "hold on, don't get sick, don't break any bones, don't need any health	sad sally	Jul 2012	#123
But you should	Sekhmets Daughter	Jul 2012	#128
As long as you do not ilve in a Repug state which refuses Medicaid coverage	dixiegrrrrl	Jul 2012	#21
yeah, until something is done about that little wrinkle	justabob	Jul 2012	#25
It's called	ProSense	Jul 2012	#30
After the hospital lobby gets done with the Republican	Fawke Em	Jul 2012	#64
I'm on Medicare so I'm sort of out of the loop	virgogal	Jul 2012	#29
Same here. I am also on Medicare and only pay $110 a month.	RebelOne	Jul 2012	#70
Some of us can't afford that. Or 'only $200 a month'	Mimosa	Jul 2012	#73
Mimosa, I am so sorry. I had no idea!	sabrina 1	Jul 2012	#148
Thank you, Sabrina	Mimosa	Jul 2012	#168
Except families making up to 400% of FPL will receive subsidies on their	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#36
thanks for saying that!	handmade34	Jul 2012	#74
I don't think anyone here believes that.	enlightenment	Jul 2012	#94
Then please explain exactly how you envision single payer to be paid for.	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#100
That's easy - Canadian model. Sales tax.	Edweird	Jul 2012	#109
Good grief.	enlightenment	Jul 2012	#120
It will be free in the same sense that public schools are free and the roads are free.	BlueCheese	Jul 2012	#103
At what rate? How much are you willing to pay? 50% of your income?	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#104
I'm not sure I understand the point of your question.	BlueCheese	Jul 2012	#114
No person under ACA will pay 50% of their income for premiums. Please see	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#124
Oh yeah - those horrible Socialist hell-holes.	Edweird	Jul 2012	#127
US per capita health care costs are the highest in the world..	Fumesucker	Jul 2012	#129
Thanks for the info.	BlueCheese	Jul 2012	#130
Who on DU has said they think single payer would be free?	kiva	Jul 2012	#108
Don't know who. I asked a question.	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#111
Then maybe you should take your question	kiva	Jul 2012	#118
Funny that the person to whom the question was addressed never responded.	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#121
Maybe they think that right wing accusations	kiva	Jul 2012	#125
In the U.K.	Sekhmets Daughter	Jul 2012	#126
UK's health care is paid by collection of the NIC based on income.	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#165
Single payer will be the same as it is in every other civilized country where no one	sabrina 1	Jul 2012	#149
Apparently you did not follow the conversation. I asked that question to the	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#159
No, the tea-party and right wing talking points include accusing Democrats of being so stupid	sabrina 1	Jul 2012	#162
Did not imply any such thing. I was rebutting the cry and hue that's been	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#164
I agree wholeheartedly with you	mercymechap	Jul 2012	#66
not true	handmade34	Jul 2012	#72
yes, but with a cap of 8% of your income, which is better than the offered 50%.	firehorse	Jul 2012	#78
None of you know how grateful I am to no longer feel very alone!	turtlerescue1	Jul 2012	#106
Not exactly. Thanks to ACA this individual should be able to someday have	harun	Jul 2012	#137
The ACA is targeting to help people just like the OP. The working poor. Subsidized health ins.	Honeycombe8	Jul 2012	#140
sometimes America is just plain embarrassing	renate	Jul 2012	#5
Barbaric is exactly right.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#8
Excellent Rant!	Melissa G	Jul 2012	#7
Its just. not. right.	progressoid	Jul 2012	#9
When I worked for the state	littlewolf	Jul 2012	#13
I just turned down my company's policy..	tridim	Jul 2012	#14
Thank you. It does drive home the point about the uninsured by choice.	Liberal Veteran	Jul 2012	#15
The point of the ACA is that in 2014 low-income people will get subsidies,	JDPriestly	Jul 2012	#22
I agree with you about non-profits. I suspect the for-profits will get out of the market	pnwmom	Jul 2012	#33
"Do you think doctors and nurses should work for free?" - That is a red herring.	Edweird	Jul 2012	#41
The ACA requires insurance companies to spend 80% of premiums	JDPriestly	Jul 2012	#112
That's nothing more than an incentive to elevate healthcare costs more.	Edweird	Jul 2012	#119
Absolutely not. I think that if a dr must charge $50 dollars for a papsmear.	Liberal Veteran	Jul 2012	#59
Yes. I would like the simple system we had in Europe -- single payer.	JDPriestly	Jul 2012	#116
How we those subsidies be issued?	Mimosa	Jul 2012	#75
They're administered by the insurance exchange.	lumberjack_jeff	Jul 2012	#97
Thanks for the info.	Mimosa	Jul 2012	#115
Tax credits only help the rich. Right, Mimosa.	JDPriestly	Jul 2012	#117
And yet people still tell me there are no stupid questions..	LanternWaste	Jul 2012	#163
If you don't buy insurance, there are four alternatives:	JDPriestly	Jul 2012	#166
exactly.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#23
It's not right. Have you looked into raising the deductable?	Auggie	Jul 2012	#17
We dont get that option.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#26
That's terrible	Auggie	Jul 2012	#28
Health care costs a lot of money. Hopefully, beginning in 2014,	JDPriestly	Jul 2012	#18
But I dont have insurance.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#31
Remember, Insurance is not equal to Health Care. Just because you have insurance	harun	Jul 2012	#138
Bingo. My deductible is so high, I've declined tests I need but can't afford.	Liberty Belle	Jul 2012	#151
The ACA will subsidize ins. coverage for the working poor, which is what sounds like you are.	Honeycombe8	Jul 2012	#141
kr	HiPointDem	Jul 2012	#20
We're in a similar position...	Ron Obvious	Jul 2012	#24
I remember 20 years ago...	bunnies	Jul 2012	#35
Yep, BCBS for us as well.	Ron Obvious	Jul 2012	#47
.....	BlancheSplanchnik	Jul 2012	#27
The Obamacare Solution: You just need the government to FORCE you to buy that insurance.	Abra	Jul 2012	#32
Do you	ProSense	Jul 2012	#34
I do not think they care, but they damn well should	Abra	Jul 2012	#69
Actually,	ProSense	Jul 2012	#98
Please enlighten us with your solution to the high cost of medical care?	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#40
Single Payer	Abra	Jul 2012	#56
And do you expect that to be 'no cost' to you? How would you pay for it?	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#61
Nope	Abra	Jul 2012	#80
Then I suggest you put aside about $500K-$1million for your healthcare.	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#81
As in Europe? When they say, paid nothing, that's not true, their income taxes are higher.	freshwest	Jul 2012	#88
Great post! I could not agree more.	Abra	Jul 2012	#96
Link?	BumRushDaShow	Jul 2012	#43
To?	Abra	Jul 2012	#71
What you posted wasn't a link to the section in the law	BumRushDaShow	Jul 2012	#79
Great! You have the link. Post any example of an inaccuracy in anything I said.	Abra	Jul 2012	#82
You obviously didn't bother to go to the link	BumRushDaShow	Jul 2012	#102
-cadabra	SoCalDem	Jul 2012	#107
Well, the lies an disinformation about ACA are flying. Wonder what we will hear next? nt	nanabugg	Jul 2012	#38
My post isnt about the ACA.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#42
Either you posted in the wrong thread or your reading comprehension is extremely low.	Edweird	Jul 2012	#51
We'll likely hear some bullying from someone calling the posters liars	just1voice	Jul 2012	#55
Get a 2nd job!	ErikJ	Jul 2012	#39
good point.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#45
Totally righteous rant - I could rant as well	GoneOffShore	Jul 2012	#44
It infuriates me that we have been conditioned to think	bunnies	Jul 2012	#48
thank you and yes she's fine.	GoneOffShore	Jul 2012	#49
Bunnies, we all know that insurance premium costs are extremely high.	sinkingfeeling	Jul 2012	#54
Youre correct. And its ridiculous!	bunnies	Jul 2012	#60
I've said it all along	Skittles	Jul 2012	#46
But don't worry, if a slew of unknowns workout it'll cost a little less years from now, LOL	just1voice	Jul 2012	#50
I'm Starting to Get Nervous About Obamacare Implemention ---should I be?	NoMittens	Jul 2012	#53
Fear not if you are a person of average (or lower) means.	Roselma	Jul 2012	#58
Tax credit?	Mimosa	Jul 2012	#93
Officially, it's a tax credit. In practice, it's a discount on the cost of coverage.	lumberjack_jeff	Jul 2012	#101
Oh....if only you can hang in there until 2014.	Roselma	Jul 2012	#57
The only sure thing the 'Affordable Care Act' does is guarantee profits for insurance corporations	Mimosa	Jul 2012	#84
Is that the only plan offered by your employer?	frazzled	Jul 2012	#62
unfortunately, yes.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#67
Sounds like your employer is getting a kickback.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2012	#132
I'm just wondering.......	mercymechap	Jul 2012	#63
Ive been wondering the same thing all day. nt	bunnies	Jul 2012	#68
Well yeah, but...	Scuba	Jul 2012	#76
Maybe I should buy this shit insurance anyway...	bunnies	Jul 2012	#87
If your employer offers insurance you do not qualify for anything	Steerpike	Jul 2012	#77
These vultures are trying to sap me for nearly 50% of my net income.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#85
You may be helped by Rmoneycare when it kicks in.	mysuzuki2	Jul 2012	#83
Insurance	billky	Jul 2012	#86
This wasnt meant to be about the future or the ACA...	bunnies	Jul 2012	#91
When I think healthcare I think Heritage/GOP/Insurance Industry	Abra	Jul 2012	#89
You pay all that BEFORE you get any care.	dkf	Jul 2012	#90
exactly.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#92
What we need is a reasonable catastrophic policy and access to cash for service.	dkf	Jul 2012	#146
I can explain this	NNN0LHI	Jul 2012	#105
Your boss may profit from your premium.	Festivito	Jul 2012	#110
huh. Ya know? I wouldnt be surprised.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#122
Insurer might charge more than needed on purpose.	Festivito	Jul 2012	#134
I think the healthcare cost is tax deductible for employers. I think. nt	Honeycombe8	Jul 2012	#142
I think they get to use pre-tax dollars to buy it.	Festivito	Jul 2012	#156
K & R	Omaha Steve	Jul 2012	#131
Don't agree "my employer pays nearly half." That half is really yours in any economic or cost	jody	Jul 2012	#133
it could also be increasing profits by the same amount	Motown_Johnny	Jul 2012	#136
So you're saying the cost of the coverage is over $16,000/yr for employee and spouse?	Honeycombe8	Jul 2012	#143
the 8k is my half of the premium. correct.	bunnies	Jul 2012	#153
Here's a policy for the two of you for $384/mo. www.healthcare.gov Lumenos H S A.	Honeycombe8	Jul 2012	#167
Good rant and I am sorry to hear	Meiko	Jul 2012	#144
The whole point of the ACA is the government would subsidize you	treestar	Jul 2012	#145
Bunnies, do you have a checking account or other type of bank account?	colorado_ufo	Jul 2012	#147
come to think of it, they DO give me life insurance free with my account...	bunnies	Jul 2012	#154
Free Ride for now my sister .. the system sucks	proud patriot	Jul 2012	#152
Great rant! Hope things start turning brighter.	raouldukelives	Jul 2012	#157
The system is irrevocably broken, and not just the HC system.	Zorra	Jul 2012	#158
A twisted path to end the disparity?	tomtharp	Jul 2012	#160

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