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In the discussion thread: Why HAVE Democratic mayors been so hardline towards Occupy? [View all]

Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #49)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 11:43 AM

58. Yup, I've seen them in action

infiltrating organizational meetings and saying, "We should let people smash windows if that's the only way they can express themselves" or going into an existing demonstration and urging people to tip over cars.

I wouldn't put it past some of these trust fund types to be playing anarchist/provocateur for the law enforcement agencies because they see the Occupy movement as a threat to their finances.

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103 replies	Author	Time	Post
Why HAVE Democratic mayors been so hardline towards Occupy? [View all]	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	OP
I think it is	FirstLight	Jul 2012	#1
Corruption, greed and money money money	Marrah_G	Jul 2012	#2
Orders from the AG and POTUS?	HooptieWagon	Jul 2012	#3
That's my opinion. These tactics certainly seem to have been coordinated.	byeya	Jul 2012	#30
Someone(s) somewhere must not want anything to truly change.	Fire Walk With Me	Jul 2012	#4
They say if voting actually changed anything, it would be made illegal.	Fire Walk With Me	Jul 2012	#42
A mayor's job is to keep the boat from rocking.	Speck Tater	Jul 2012	#5
In this case, a mayor's job is not to piss off the Federal government	EFerrari	Jul 2012	#6
Democratic leaders don't want that kind of thing going on during an election year. nt	Raine	Jul 2012	#7
But they were doing it last fall, when it WASN'T an election year.	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#8
Speaks for itself, really. There's no excuse any rational person can make for them. nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Jul 2012	#9
Don't know about anywhere else, but Anarchists screwed it up here.	DirkGently	Jul 2012	#10
They don't sound like "anarchists" to me	Art_from_Ark	Jul 2012	#35
Anarchists are infant Libertarians.	DirkGently	Jul 2012	#40
Interesting explanation	Art_from_Ark	Jul 2012	#41
Those I met both substituted "rage" for coherence.	DirkGently	Jul 2012	#59
No they're not. Anarchist were a vital part of the early labor movement and were deeply responsible	Puregonzo1188	Jul 2012	#55
Not the ones I met at Occupy.	DirkGently	Jul 2012	#57
Most of these "anarchists" are plants from various LE agencies. They've been exposed numerous times	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#49
Yup, I've seen them in action	Lydia Leftcoast	Jul 2012	#58
I think that's entirely possible.	DirkGently	Jul 2012	#61
sounds like what happened here	Adenoid_Hynkel	Jul 2012	#103
Los Angeles' City Council agreed to pass a resolution opposing Citizens' United.	JDPriestly	Jul 2012	#11
This message was self-deleted by its author	loyalsister	Jul 2012	#12
Ken, sorry to break it to you but Dem mayors represent the interests of the 1%, not	coalition_unwilling	Jul 2012	#13
Most every Democrat I know is viciously anti-Occupy	Sen. Walter Sobchak	Jul 2012	#14
I've certainly never met one single Democrat who was anti-Occupy - some centrist types I know are a	Douglas Carpenter	Jul 2012	#15
It isn't the issue, it is the tactics.	Sen. Walter Sobchak	Jul 2012	#22
I certainly have not talked to any Democrats who feel that way and that includes	Douglas Carpenter	Jul 2012	#26
Absolutely everything I have seen and read, here and elsewhere, runs counter to everything you claim	Occulus	Jul 2012	#62
I'm shocked.	UnrepentantLiberal	Jul 2012	#16
"Viciously anti-Occupy"???? Really??? That must be because the Democratic	coalition_unwilling	Jul 2012	#17
And the 1% who wander or drive past homeless people with total indifference	Sen. Walter Sobchak	Jul 2012	#24
News flash: who (other than you) ever said it was about turning around the 1%? See	coalition_unwilling	Jul 2012	#31
And here I thought Reagan Democrats were a myth. n/t	EFerrari	Jul 2012	#19
It isn't the "Reagan Democrats" you have to worry about,	Sen. Walter Sobchak	Jul 2012	#25
The Occupiers were the only ones speaking truth to power...other than Dennis.	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#28
That may be...	Sen. Walter Sobchak	Jul 2012	#33
The only real impression YOU leave with anyone is you peeing on anybody	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#45
So now we're posting Republican narrative here?	EFerrari	Jul 2012	#32
People who STILL hate hippies and any remaining vestiges of the Sixties	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#100
The only vicious anti-occupy people I've encountered are right here on DU, not in the real world.	myrna minx	Jul 2012	#38
Yes, one story that the media have absolutely ignored is the way	Lydia Leftcoast	Jul 2012	#60
Get out of the office more often, you've apparently become insulated. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#50
I think Mayors regardless of their politcal sympathies are in a peculiar political postion	Douglas Carpenter	Jul 2012	#18
A progressive ethical mayor doesn't loose the police armed with deadly weapons	EFerrari	Jul 2012	#20
I totally agree	Douglas Carpenter	Jul 2012	#21
The fact is, there has been very little violence in the vast majority of protests	EFerrari	Jul 2012	#23
I know that. But in politics perception is everything and has a lot to do with whether or not a	Douglas Carpenter	Jul 2012	#27
I think the simple answer is: It scared them.	KurtNYC	Jul 2012	#29
rhetorical question, right?	HiPointDem	Jul 2012	#34
Because it is a movement against corporate rule that is inconvenient	mmonk	Jul 2012	#36
Because they still have a city to run	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#37
"had their fun"?	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#44
At this point yes,	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#46
It's not like you're doing anything that has any better chance of success	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#47
"ONLY the Occupy folks are doing anything that matters."	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#51
OK...I'll amend it to "anything POSITIVE that matters"	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#63
Some people are severely injured running with the bulls	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#67
Truthy to POWER!!!	snooper2	Jul 2012	#70
Also, whether I personally am doing something better	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#53
OWS is moving on to other things as well.	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#64
You see this is one of the many many conflicting notions	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#68
I'll assume that by "political action" you mean "supporting the Democratic Party".	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#79
You may assume that if you wish	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#83
The Wall Street lobbyists have massive amounts of money.	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#86
"It's impossible for the non-rich to successfully lobby."	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#93
Whether you are personally doing anything better DOES matter	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#72
Er, no.	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#74
Not a valid analogy at all.	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#75
Interesting	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#78
It's not like the only choices are "law and order" or violence.	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#92
Funny how you keep editing the rules	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#97
We can assume that none of the mayors that crushed the Occupy camps	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#66
They were illegally squatting	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#69
OK...I get it now...you're one of those "the law's the law and that's all that matters" types.	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#71
Er, yes. The Law is the Law	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#73
You assume that the only alternative to surrendering to the law is violence.	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#77
"that it never protects women"	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#80
We have never had blind justice in this country.	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#82
The number of women doing time	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#84
Domestic violence rates are NOT equal	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#87
This is getting off on a tangent	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#90
Er... because the Democratic Mayors are part of the bourgeoisie.............	socialist_n_TN	Jul 2012	#39
This isn't France and it isn't the French Revolution.	randome	Jul 2012	#85
how important is "order", really?	Ken Burch	Jul 2012	#89
If you start from the premise that this is the most perfect world possible, then order is EVERYTHING	Romulox	Jul 2012	#95
Some Democratic mayors aren't much different than Teapublican mayors.	99Forever	Jul 2012	#43
Mayors benefit when there is order and things stay the same or improve.	NCTraveler	Jul 2012	#48
What exactly is "better than that?"	loyalsister	Jul 2012	#52
Because someone has to pay for all these protests? City budgets are bare bones these days.	Tarheel_Dem	Jul 2012	#54
Because people will blame the mayor if it appears that a city has descended into disorder	stevenleser	Jul 2012	#56
+1000. Historic case in point: Daley and the '68 Democratic convention.	closeupready	Jul 2012	#94
because if there are traffic snarls or slow downs or it's hard to get into parks...	WI_DEM	Jul 2012	#65
I think it	Meiko	Jul 2012	#76
It's corporate $$$. Same as for the Republicans. nt	Romulox	Jul 2012	#81
because they work for the 1% too	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#88
IMO	Mr Dixon	Jul 2012	#91
Because at the top of the party there are alot of dems who take corporate money.	craigmatic	Jul 2012	#96
Maybe it's because the horrible truth is that the one thing republicans have in	Baitball Blogger	Jul 2012	#98
Occupy, what's that? That was stupid idea from the start	doc03	Jul 2012	#99
Right idea, but hindered by the "play nice" ideology n/t	Scootaloo	Jul 2012	#102
I guess there's just not much difference between Dem mayors and Repub mayors. nt	valerief	Jul 2012	#101

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