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Jackpine Radical

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Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:15 PM Jul 2012

Who will be the first to tell me I'm indulging in paranoid fantasies? [View all]

Whenever the authorities want to stage an attack on civil rights, they do it by first demonizing some subgroup and then creating exceptions to the Bill of Rights that at first only apply to the despised target population. Then, having driven their wedge into the crack, they expand the scope of their rights violations over time.

Thus in the 1930’s to 1950’s it was Communists and first the Dies Committee and then the McCarthy HUAC Hearings, and Americans lost the right to belong to certain political groups with proscribed ideologies. (I remember that when I was drafted in 1967 they made me sign a form on which I swore that I was not/had never been a member of a whole list of organizations, of which the Abraham Lincoln Brigade was one).

People got used to having their freedom of speech and assembly shut down, and the populace as a whole went along quietly when the cops & National Guard were mobilized to put down the antiwar demonstrations.

Then in the 70’s and 80’s, the War on Drugs provided the excuse for a whole wave of incursions on our right to be free from unreasonable searches & seizures, and the militarization of the police began.

In the 90’s, preventive detention began (albeit under the guise of “treatment”), with the universally reviled target of sex offenders. Now 20 states and the Federal Government have laws that permit them to civilly commit and detain “sexually violent persons” after they have served their full prison sentences and involuntarily sequester them in locked “treatment facilities” for indeterminate periods (which usually means for life). These “treatment facilities” generally employ a level of security equivalent to that of a medium-security prison. In 2 rulings, the Supreme Court has already given its stamp of approval to these policies as long as they are cloaked with some nominal pretense of treatment.

This preventive detention scheme disguised as a civil commitment procedure is too good to waste. I predict that within 5 or 10 years, preventive detention programs will be expanded to include other demonized groups such as “eco-terrorists” and anyone else who obstructs the interests of the 1% under the pretext that they have “mental abnormalities” that make them incredibly dangerous and require their being placed on ice for life--all for the safety of the community, of course.

Well, you have to know they’re going to find a means to fill those FEMA camps one way or another, and they’ve already test-marketed the commitment approach and established all necessary legal precedent for it with the various Sexually Violent Person acts.

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Sounds like the old Soviet Union. If you didn't like the system, you had to be crazy. leveymg Jul 2012 #1
Amen. n/t kickysnana Jul 2012 #6
We have some here that romantacize the former U.S.S.R.. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2012 #37
Are you trying to say that somehow, in your mind; Indydem Jul 2012 #2
Absolutely not. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #3
So if a sex offender is sentenced to say, 10 years. Indydem Jul 2012 #4
The overall rate of sex offense recidivism is in the neighborhood of 5%. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #5
I think you missed the point Bradical79 Jul 2012 #32
WHAT FEMA camps? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #7
I have known you from DU for a long time NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #8
I'll be first. There are no FEMA camps.... scheming daemons Jul 2012 #9
Oh NOES!1! Has everyone forgotten about the black helicopters? FSogol Jul 2012 #21
you are indulging in paranoid fantasies bonzotex Jul 2012 #10
Remember this? Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #15
KBR contract does not equal FEMA camps for political detainees bonzotex Jul 2012 #40
I regret introducing the FEMA camp distraction. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #44
Thanks! bonzotex Jul 2012 #48
You certainly have laid it ... 99Forever Jul 2012 #11
FEMA camps is probably over-the-top malthaussen Jul 2012 #12
The reactions of everyone here to sex offenders Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #13
You keep trying to argue that pedophilia and rape are a civil right lunatica Jul 2012 #20
No, I'm saying that the universal revulsion against sex offenders can be used Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #24
My argument isn't that they deserve to be detained illegally lunatica Jul 2012 #29
The problem is that pulling over to pee on a tree Occulus Jul 2012 #38
Actually, I agree. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #43
FEMA Camps? You were doing OK until that. MineralMan Jul 2012 #14
i saw you piloting one of those black UN helicopters over my house, spraying TSP on my garden, so dionysus Jul 2012 #17
fema camps.alex jones style woo strikes again... dionysus Jul 2012 #16
I have no sympathy for the sex offenders. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #18
Since when is sexual predation a civil right? lunatica Jul 2012 #19
Legally convicted offenders who have served their time. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #23
Your use of an example is what's twisted lunatica Jul 2012 #26
There are no FEMA camps. nt hack89 Jul 2012 #22
And you know this how? ananda Jul 2012 #25
Because there are no credible reports of any FEMA camps. hack89 Jul 2012 #28
dude. they're hidden by HOLOGRAMS. get with the program. dionysus Jul 2012 #36
if you are really curious here's a good link bonzotex Jul 2012 #41
And don't forget the robots. Why do the scientists even make them? n/t Ian David Jul 2012 #27
I'm glad you asked! Inkfreak Jul 2012 #35
This seemed borderline, but still thought provoking Lawlbringer Jul 2012 #30
I'ts Time, sweetapogee Jul 2012 #31
... Arkana Jul 2012 #33
Jack,did you forget to take the red pill this morning? Swede Jul 2012 #34
I can't beleive people are twisting what you say so much on the topic of sex offenders. white_wolf Jul 2012 #39
I'n not at all against commitment or protective placement in every circumstance. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #45
If you are Time for change Jul 2012 #42
Thanks. Your opinion has always counted for a great deal with me. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #46
Jackpine, never give the "sensible centrists" and "pragmatic progressives" a bye TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #47
Thanks. As I already acknowledged, the FEMA stuff was dumb of me. Jackpine Radical Jul 2012 #49
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