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lumberjack_jeff

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12. Violation of the social contract has only one pushback mechanism.

Reply to cthulu2016 (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:26 AM

Jul 2012

It may be possible for enlightened elites to perpetually keep their greedy impulses in check, but an example of that doesn't yet exist.

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I am not advocating Violence [View all] cthulu2016 Jul 2012 OP

I think it's possible for the aristocracy to back off their looting just enough to rhett o rick Jul 2012 #1

I'm thinking that TARP was supposed to be that.... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #2

TARP? That was just changing a flat tire on the loot-wagon. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #28

And that is, to me, the heart of the difference between the parties cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #4

Exactly -- which is why true "change" will never actually come from the Democrats, either villager Jul 2012 #5

information is power if/when power derives from consent BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #7

So sweet of you to be willing to sacrifice...how many of us? aquart Jul 2012 #15

?? villager Jul 2012 #43

They don't have to Doctor_J Jul 2012 #11

The it-takes-both-carrot-and-stick theory is supported by the ending of the Viet Nam war AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #6

A quick look at the last 20 years in the US should be a clue Doctor_J Jul 2012 #8

K&R RagAss Jul 2012 #9

This is why I reject pacifism. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #10

Violation of the social contract has only one pushback mechanism. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #12

a pact which exceeds the natural rights of one of the co-contractors BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #21

What is your opinion of Gene Sharp, From Dictatorship to Democracy? Sirveri Jul 2012 #13

We have a pretty good system treestar Jul 2012 #14

It has completely broken down, due in large part Doctor_J Jul 2012 #17

It is still functioning treestar Jul 2012 #18

No, it's not Doctor_J Jul 2012 #25

Amen ! RagAss Jul 2012 #42

Erica Chenoweth has explored this question PETRUS Jul 2012 #16

I think her work is sort of side-ways to the question cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #19

Hiya PETRUS Jul 2012 #44

Do those figures include the founding of the United States? Zalatix Jul 2012 #30

Um, the header says 1900-2006 Doctor_J Jul 2012 #37

Rhetorical question Zalatix Jul 2012 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #20

Odd thing for Cthulhu to say 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #22

"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #23

Yes, all of the bromides are in favor of pacifism Doctor_J Jul 2012 #24

Yeah, MLK was such a weak, bromide-spouting appeaser, wasn't he? Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #35

To recognize the effect of non-violent protest, take the two recent examples Doctor_J Jul 2012 #26

Historical note (that does not discredit your larger point): World War I coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #27

D'oh! I will probably not surprise you to know that cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #31

Civil disobedience. Zalatix Jul 2012 #29

Or to paraphrase Al Capone: a kind word and the threat of a gun. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2012 #32

Pre-cisely! Check out reply #16 above cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #34

yer onto something. DCKit Jul 2012 #33

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein GarroHorus Jul 2012 #36

"When the rich rob the poor, it's called business. When the poor fight back it's called violence." AJTheMan Jul 2012 #39

Putting aside all the rest of your historical inaccuracies & falsehoods in this laughable OP, apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #40

Gee, thanks. That's so awesome. cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #41

That's why the GOP needs to be destroyed BanTheGOP Jul 2012 #45