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joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
81. Erm, I am a huge mandate supporter here and I've been saying the exact same thing.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:34 PM
Jul 2012

I do not, in fact, believe that they are "pissing" as the DUers here who post misleading information on a regular basis. They're being very reasonable, pointing out the pluses, and advocating for improvement.

I do disagree with Krugman that the Republican mandate was the same as the Democratic mandate, though, but a lot of people miss those nuances. Not really feeling like yet another tail chasing on this issue though so I'm sure I'll be sniped at over this issue and told how wrong I am and how I need to be educated about this or that.

Well, that's a special brand of "piss" since.. ananda Jun 2012 #1
as many around here no doubt were stupidicus Jul 2012 #66
read again spanone Jun 2012 #2
why? stupidicus Jul 2012 #67
There's nothing "Socialist" about having to tithe to insurance corporations kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #3
lol stupidicus Jul 2012 #68
I can't wait to see people scream at Moore and Krugman. Zalatix Jun 2012 #4
Why ProSense Jun 2012 #6
99.99% of the ACA is good. But they both singled out the individual mandate as the flaw in the law. Zalatix Jun 2012 #25
Wait. So you're endlessly posting criticism of ACA... SidDithers Jun 2012 #49
I have been posting criticism not of the entire ACA, but rather the individual mandate. Zalatix Jun 2012 #53
The mandate is not the 1% way. It is a mandate in context with a MLR on the premium dollar that cuts patrice Jul 2012 #106
I don't want the ACA to fail. I am hoping the new consumer tools work as intended. Zalatix Jul 2012 #120
Me too. And, yes, we shouldn't underestimate the difficulty of the struggle, but this is it. What patrice Jul 2012 #122
The Constitutionality of the mandate is ground to stand on for the constitutionality of Single Payer patrice Jul 2012 #101
indeed stupidicus Jul 2012 #69
Seriously, that is what you got out of what they said? mmonk Jun 2012 #5
They both dissed the individual mandate. Most of the DU supports the mandate. VEHEMENTLY. Zalatix Jun 2012 #8
Wrong ProSense Jun 2012 #10
Looks like Krugman CHANGED his point of view. Zalatix Jun 2012 #13
Not at all. Still supports a mandate. n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #17
You're wrong again. The quote shows it. Zalatix Jun 2012 #22
Just so ProSense Jun 2012 #28
Ah, I see what the problem here is. Zalatix Jun 2012 #34
I see the problem too: denial! n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #38
No. What he's saying is that it's not the best way to cover people, but you need to have it boxman15 Jun 2012 #32
I agree with that quote and think that you are stretching it rhett o rick Jun 2012 #63
Are you going to admit you are wrong? snooper2 Jun 2012 #11
I'm not wrong. So not just no, but HELL NO. Zalatix Jun 2012 #12
Sure, even in the face of facts you stand by your wrong headed opinions snooper2 Jun 2012 #14
What facts? You mean your imagination? Zalatix Jun 2012 #19
You were ProSense Jun 2012 #15
I actually cited where I was correct about Krugman. Sorry, you're wrong again. Zalatix Jun 2012 #21
Actually, ProSense Jun 2012 #24
What the hell else do you think he is referring to besides the individual mandate? Zalatix Jun 2012 #26
RomneyCare, but ProSense Jun 2012 #27
I'm dead serious as a heart attack here. Zalatix Jun 2012 #30
Are you ProSense Jun 2012 #42
I'm happy with 99.99% of the Affordable Care Act. I am unhappy with 0.01%. Zalatix Jun 2012 #43
Guess what: ProSense Jun 2012 #48
LOL at all that denial you're selling. Zalatix Jun 2012 #52
Question: ProSense Jun 2012 #57
Krugman, March 2012: muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #60
Thank You! "...and it takes a lot to set up such a system." nt patrice Jul 2012 #114
I VEHEMENTLY support paying huge sums to private insurance corporations. RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #20
15 and 20% is too much. 3% is good. Zalatix Jun 2012 #44
Everyone agrees about that. The REAL questions are about how to get there with a system that patrice Jul 2012 #109
Theoretically, moving the cost of health care off of employers, under certain circumstances Zalatix Jul 2012 #119
Dealing with the Tax Code could also result in NEW employers, entrepreneurs, and some of those might patrice Jul 2012 #123
wrong wrong WRONG Skittles Jul 2012 #103
nope stupidicus Jul 2012 #70
Facts = pissing? JHB Jun 2012 #7
sometimes stupidicus Jul 2012 #71
Not one of those times. JHB Jul 2012 #100
it never is stupidicus Jul 2012 #136
Moore and Krugman are right on the money. hifiguy Jun 2012 #9
Moore also sees it as a step in the right direction despite its flaws deutsey Jun 2012 #45
of course they are stupidicus Jul 2012 #72
stupidicus pisses on Moore and Krugman CleanLucre Jun 2012 #16
hardly stupidicus Jul 2012 #73
The ACA is "diluted & flawed" fredamae Jun 2012 #18
That's exactly how I feel. Now, it's a lot easier to amend the legislation to improve it. Hoyt Jun 2012 #29
How many Rs voted for it? nt. NCTraveler Jun 2012 #33
The minority Sen GOP didn't Filibuster n/t fredamae Jul 2012 #128
That's the way I look at it too - TBF Jun 2012 #37
I'm with You! fredamae Jun 2012 #65
of course it is stupidicus Jul 2012 #74
Exactly, we can make something better out of it. joshcryer Jul 2012 #83
"Only damned way the R's would let it pass." - not a single republican voted for the bill. PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #127
I don't often use smilies. They are shortcuts of shortcuts (words) TalkingDog Jun 2012 #23
me either stupidicus Jul 2012 #75
I know many of the more 'centrist' posters here see honesty as a flaw... Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #31
I agree with both of them stupidicus Jul 2012 #76
If you can't see that the bill is seriously flawed, then you're looking at it Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #35
I knew it was when it passed stupidicus Jul 2012 #77
there's a huge difference b/w criticizing the ACA and "piss[ing] on the ACA decision" fishwax Jun 2012 #36
indeed stupidicus Jul 2012 #78
So, actually, they each applauded the decision, with reservations. bluedigger Jun 2012 #39
+100 Taverner Jun 2012 #47
Bingo. Taking a page from the Politico playbook RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #50
who? me? stupidicus Jul 2012 #80
Your liberal noblesse oblige plays poorly. bluedigger Jul 2012 #98
and you've nothing but sour notes stupidicus Jul 2012 #110
I merely tried to harmonize with the off key melody of your OP. bluedigger Jul 2012 #116
tried and failed stupidicus Jul 2012 #133
So correctly pointing out what is wrong with ACA is pissing on the SCOTUS decision Chisox08 Jun 2012 #40
well said stupidicus Jul 2012 #82
reminds me of CNN Faux news yesterday Progressive dog Jun 2012 #41
how so stupidicus Jul 2012 #84
It sure looks like you are having great fun tonight... movonne Jul 2012 #117
I read Moore's commentary not as pissing on it, but celebrating Taverner Jun 2012 #46
Yup. RufusTFirefly Jun 2012 #51
I used a figure of speech stupidicus Jul 2012 #85
Nice To See A Fella Living Up To His Name, Sir.... The Magistrate Jun 2012 #54
Heheh... SidDithers Jun 2012 #59
Nice to see a fella living up to his nic alrighty stupidicus Jul 2012 #86
Ha! Ha! You're pretty uh. . . un-informed yourself. You have NO idea how qualified The Magistrate is patrice Jul 2012 #112
+1000 well said SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #113
and I could care less stupidicus Jul 2012 #138
The Squeal, Sir, Is The Enjoyable Sign The Shaft Went Home The Magistrate Jul 2012 #135
that was exactly what I thought stupidicus Jul 2012 #139
You Know, Sir, It Does Not Bother Me To Keep This Idiocy Up And Current The Magistrate Jul 2012 #141
thanks for conceding stupidicus Jul 2012 #143
Nice cherry picking... lame54 Jun 2012 #55
thanks stupidicus Jul 2012 #87
Thank them on your way out lame54 Jul 2012 #129
my, whatta lame, substanceless retort stupidicus Jul 2012 #131
My apologies... lame54 Jul 2012 #142
notta problem stupidicus Jul 2012 #144
I agree with their assessments. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #56
me too stupidicus Jul 2012 #88
You're kidding! Kahuna Jun 2012 #58
nope stupidicus Jul 2012 #89
Until we get single-payer, I'm fine with the mandate. Zen Democrat Jun 2012 #61
I'm not stupidicus Jul 2012 #90
People will not be buying healthcare. enlightenment Jul 2012 #118
but he said; But it’s still a big step toward a better—and by that I mean morally better — society. dionysus Jun 2012 #62
I agree stupidicus Jul 2012 #92
HMMMM.....112 posts? Something smells fishy, and not just their logic! Logical Jun 2012 #64
what you appear to know about logic stupidicus Jul 2012 #93
Your post was a fail, but you know that now Logical Jul 2012 #105
thanks for conceding the validity of my observation stupidicus Jul 2012 #111
You seem te type that just makes up stuff so you can argue, easy... Logical Jul 2012 #115
further concessions were neither solicited or warranted stupidicus Jul 2012 #134
You feel good about saying that Michael Moore and Paul Krugman PISS on this decision, elleng Jul 2012 #79
no stupidicus Jul 2012 #94
Then I'd either acknowledge that 'fact,' elleng Jul 2012 #97
oh stupidicus Jul 2012 #104
Erm, I am a huge mandate supporter here and I've been saying the exact same thing. joshcryer Jul 2012 #81
you scored stupidicus Jul 2012 #96
i see what you did there. KG Jul 2012 #91
me too and it's SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #95
why so? stupidicus Jul 2012 #99
Your reply highlights SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #107
wrong stupidicus Jul 2012 #121
What is wrong SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #126
no, what's dishonest stupidicus Jul 2012 #130
should they be admoished for telling the truth? Skittles Jul 2012 #102
I think you like reading your own stuff! Logical Jul 2012 #108
Recommended...n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2012 #124
ACA is such a stupid mess I'm almost embarrassed to be American. ErikJ Jul 2012 #125
indeed stupidicus Jul 2012 #132
OFFS Marrah_G Jul 2012 #137
probably under the pile of turds stupidicus Jul 2012 #140
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